Tar removal

[Odisious]

I am presuming that you have very mild tar because that is impossible with the tar which you would find on a vehicle in the UK.

Think about it, if tar really rinsed that easily, almost every road in the UK would have long since washed away!

Think about what you said, US roads have milder tar...UK roads have hardcore tar that would be washed away if they had that mild style of tar...yet US roads aren't washed away with our milder puny tar. Hmmmmmm....
:doh:
:surrender:
OP...I'm sorry for suggesting the coating for your circumstance, PiPUK's experience with coatings has showed him that's not a viable option. *disregard* Good luck with that UK tar. By the way, where's "Pittsburgh" located in the United Kingdom? Otherwise I'd think you'd be addressing ways to remove the US's type of tar.

 

[geekdout]

I think he is just saying that tar is not typically washed away with just water. If that was the case with the weather they have in the UK the asphalt from the roads would be long gone.

PiPUK is one of the best sources of reliable information on the forum, in my opinion.

 

[PiPUK]

Think about what you said, US roads have milder tar...UK roads have hardcore tar that would be washed away if they had that mild style of tar...yet US roads aren't washed away with our milder puny tar. Hmmmmmm....
:doh:
:surrender:
OP...I'm sorry for suggesting the coating for your circumstance, PiPUK's experience with coatings has showed him that's not a viable option. *disregard* Good luck with that UK tar. By the way, where's "Pittsburgh" located in the United Kingdom? Otherwise I'd think you'd be addressing ways to remove the US's type of tar.

I was playing devil's advocate and talking somewhat tongue in cheek, I'll be a little more blunt in future.

I think he is just saying that tar is not typically washed away with just water. If that was the case with the weather they have in the UK the asphalt from the roads would be long gone.

PiPUK is one of the best sources of reliable information on the forum, in my opinion.

Many thanks and yes, that is precisely what I was saying. Tar does not dissolve in water and I am not sure precisely what the video was showing. I've never seen a tar stain look like that, they are almost always blobs.

I know for fact that, in the UK, we have a much bigger tar problem than in the US and our market is filled with products like stoners tarminator or car pro tar-x (in fact the majority would be a lot stronger). If the posters before genuinely believe that a coating will stop the need for these products, I suggest that they hit the UK detailing forums and start promoting that view. As someone who manufacturers both coatings and tar removers, I cannot agree so there is little point my adding anything further.

 

[RPM_BR]

Naphtha, mineral spirits and 3M citrus are part of my arsenal when it comes to removing tar spots. I also use a d-limonene paste, used for general cleaning, as well.

 

[builthatch]

yo i'm telling you all you need is a prep solvent aka solvent based panel wipe. i use it all the time. i noticed a big area for tar aside from the lowers is in the barrels of wheels. and a lot of times that blob will have a hard piece stuck to it too. no need for fancy Tarminator or other detailing chemicals.

prep solvent evaporates clean and while it will remove wax, it will not affect coatings.

i used to use Prep-All but that company was ridiculous when i tried to find some locally after Wal-Mart around here stopped carrying it, so i switched to Maxx Solv and never looked back. i buy the gallon tin from the local body shop and put some in my old 32 oz Prep-All can. cheap and super handy.

 

[FUNX650]

•Why is Maxx Solv so fantastic?

-It's just mostly (~85-90 percent) Naptha;
a little bit (~5 percent) of IPA<---(not too hateful);
and a little bit (~5) of Xylene & Benzene<---(both pretty hateful)!

Naphtha, mineral spirits

^^^ rops: ...and inexpensive... ^^^



Bob

 

[builthatch]

•Why is Maxx Solv so fantastic?

as a specific product? 5 Star Maxx Solv National Rule formula wax & grease remover seems to out perform Prep-All and is cheaper. I haven't tested it vs. 3M's product but i won't.

as a category (solvent based wax/grease remover)? it works so well for me with stubborn tar spots and decal adhesive that i haven't the need to look for a better process or product(s).

Prep-All, 3M Prep Solvent, Maxx Solv...whatever. that wax/grease remover/solvent panel wipe general product category works like a dream for me re: stubborn tar spots. and you only need a very small amount on a small piece of folded shop towel to eliminate said stubborn tar spots with ease. it's not like you are spraying it anywhere or using it en masse.

a gallon of this stuff cost me like $20 and will last me forever since you only need such a small amount in the detailing realm as well as other various uses i've found elsewhere in life.

-It's just mostly (~85-90 percent) Naptha;
a little bit (~5 percent) of IPA<---(not too hateful);
and a little bit (~5) of Xylene & Benzene<---(both pretty hateful)!


^^^ rops: ...and inexpensive... ^^^



Bob

dunno. a gallon of naptha will be $17-$18 and some pure isopropanol will be several dollars more. but really, if that works for you and it's cheaper, awesome! maybe i missed your recommendation in this thread for the OP. i hope whatever you recommended helps them too.

 

[RPM_BR]

I think he is just saying that tar is not typically washed away with just water. If that was the case with the weather they have in the UK the asphalt from the roads would be long gone.

PiPUK is one of the best sources of reliable information on the forum, in my opinion.

+1. Car detailing chemistry king he is. Just read his posts and learn and learn.

 

[parttimer]

Mineral spirits about the same thing?