Testing Out Chemical Guys Black Wax - 1964 BLACK Catalina

Its my 1969 Camaro. I have owned it 27 years. Paint is 19 year old PPG Deltron. I drive the car a lot during the show car season. For years I have used 3M Imperial hand glaze with a follow up of Mothers Carnuba wax for my paint maintenance. That process has always worked well for me. Lots of rubbing though. There are so many products out there that it can be confusing what to choose. When I read the article on the Catalina I became very excited about this product and cant wait to try it. Thanks for all the hard work!
 
sixtnine said:
Its my 1969 Camaro. I have owned it 27 years. Paint is 19 year old PPG Deltron.
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I LOVE polishing on the old Deltron DBU82 Deltron BC/CC paint systems. They really polish up nice. I've buffed on a lot of the original Deltron DBU paint systems.


sixtnine said:
I drive the car a lot during the show car season. For years I have used 3M Imperial hand glaze with a follow up of Mothers Carnauba wax for my paint maintenance. That process has always worked well for me. Lots of rubbing though.

There are so many products out there that it can be confusing what to choose. When I read the article on the Catalina I became very excited about this product and cant wait to try it. Thanks for all the hard work!
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Nothing wrong with Imperial Hand Glaze and Mother's Carnauba wax.

I'd definitely recommend getting a simple Porter Cable DA Polisher and apply both product by hand. Maybe even get a good quality fine cut polish to remove any light swirls instead of the Imperial Hand Glaze and then top with wax.

See this article,


It's not that hard...


Note these people are not just "learning" on daily drivers aka new cars, they're learning on someone's "toys" or Special Interest Vehicles. More risk for me, more fun for them...



In the below live broadcast I show a 15 year old boy how to machine polish

Live Broadcast Video - 1965 Plymouth Valiant - Extreme Makeover

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And in this one I show a 21 year old girl how to machine polish

Video & Pictures: 1965 Fastback Mustang - Gtechniq EXO Show Car Makeover!

Trista working with the rest of the team to machine polish this 1965 Mustang Fastback 2+2
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Trista removing swirls on a show car...
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And in this one I show a 80 year old man and a young lady and here boyfriend how to machine polish for their first time...

Video and Pictures - Two 1967 Camaro's - Show Car Makeovers!


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PLUS you have everyone on this forum to help you along the way...

:)
 
I originally stripped the car and did a color change to black in 1990. In the Spring of 1994 I was rear ended at a stoplight, thus the need for another repaint.

I am often asked why I did not use base clear on the Camaro. The reason being that there were so many late model vehicles back then had their clear coat peeling off. I was scared that would eventually hapen to my car. LOL..

Anyway, I am curious if you have compared the "look" of old single stage black finishes to todays BCCC . Do you think the older paint has a darker, deeper "black" compared to the newer paints of today?

I know paint technology has come a long, long way since mine was painted. I am considering a repaint to my car in the near future based on the years of rock chips from driving,etc. I am on the fence about whether or not I would go back single stage or BCCC.

I really like the "shade" of black mine has. Most people would not notice the difference without seeing, for example, my car parked to one with a newer BCCC paint job. Most of my friends say they would not paint the car but just spot it in various places based on the fact it is single stage and the shape it is in especially after all these years.


Thanks again for all you do for this site and hobby!
 
sixtnine said:
I originally stripped the car and did a color change to black in 1990. In the Spring of 1994 I was rear ended at a stoplight, thus the need for another repaint. I am often asked why I did not use base clear on the Camaro. The reason being that there were so many late model vehicles back then had their clear coat peeling off. I was scared that would eventually hapen to my car. LOL.. Anyway, I am curious if you have compared the "look" of old single stage black finishes to todays BCCC . Do you think the older paint has a darker, deeper "black" compared to the newer paints of today? I know paint technology has come a long, long way since mine was painted. I am considering a repaint to my car in the near future based on the years of rock chips from driving,etc. I am on the fence about whether or not I would go back single stage or BCCC. I really like the "shade" of black mine has. Most people would not notice the difference without seeing, for example, my car parked to one with a newer BCCC paint job. Most of my friends say they would not paint the car but just spot it in various places based on the fact it is single stage and the shape it is in especially after all these years. Thanks again for all you do for this site and hobby!
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I like single stage for all solid colors, ie nonmetallic. It looks rich, like porcelain. BC/CC looks like it's laminated with a plastic coating, and complicates the touch up process. Furthermore, BC/CC shows swirls much much more, especially on black.
In addition, 69 Camaros were single stage when new, so it BC/CC doesn't really look right on them, IMO.
My first 57 Chevy is Deltron.
 
sixtnine said:
Anyway, I am curious if you have compared the "look" of old single stage black finishes to todays BCCC .

Do you think the older paint has a darker, deeper "black" compared to the newer paints of today?
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Good questions and tough decision for anyone getting something "cool" painted.


First, here's your car inserted instead of attached, makes it a lot more enjoyable to view on a forum. This picture is now in "your" gallery here on this forum.



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As to your questions about single stage versus clearcoat paint system and specifically the color black...

This is just my opinion for what it's worth... I think when it comes to black paint, you cannot beat a single stage finish for depth and darkness of color and this only pertains to black paint that is professionally polished.

Clearcoated black paint looks like black paint with a layer of plastic over it, it's still beautiful but not as rich in color.


This truck was on the cover of Trukin Magazine a few years ago and also voted America's most beautiful Ford F100, the paint is a single stage urethane. When I got to it the paint was completely hacked up with swirls and scratches.

I spent around 10 hours buffing it out back in 2006, before much of the really cool new abrasive technology was introduced.

"Black is not a color, it's a full time job"

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Now this truck below Richard Lin and I buffed out a few years ago is not black but it is clear coated and I think you can see by looking at the hood that while the paint is very clear, it also looks like it has a plastic coating over it...


Wild Paint Job - Swirl Removal - Cover of Trukin Magazine

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Tough decision as clear coats do tend to be more durable "generally speaking" but if a person takes care of a singe stage paint job then it's not an issue.



Clearcoats can fail over time and with neglect and/or exposure to extreme sunlight and the elements and single stage paints will oxidize. Here's the difference, if a clearcoat finish fails you HAVE to repaint. If a single stage paint oxidizes, you simply buff it out.


:)
 
Ding dang....


Just had a guy PM me a question about which pads I used on the Catalina and when I clicked to this write-up I found out I never added a list of products used that link to the AG store.

I'm a slacker!

I'll try to add them in the next week or so...


:D
 
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