The Final Wipe

I always use Meguiar's mist&wipe quik retailer is that a bad idea?


Depends upon your point of view...

If you just waxed your car and you want to leave as much wax on the paint as possible you don't want to

A. Keep wiping and wiping - this won't add more wax, what's the opposite of adding?

B. Introduce a liquid and wipe - this won't add more wax, what's the opposite of adding?


In a perfect world, you wipe of the majority of the wax then you give the paint a "Final Wipe" and then you stand back and admire the results and let some time go by for any and all protection ingredients to fully set-up, cure, cross-link, bond, adhere, stick, (whatever term applies best), and THEN if needed, do any touch-up wiping.


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The Final Wipe – Tips for creating a streak-free, show car finish


Christina giving the paint on a classic 1959 El Camino the Final Wipe
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1959 Chevrolet El Camino - Extreme Makeover - Modeled by Christina



Just the thought of her heavy metal bracelet that close to the paint makes me uncomfortable.
 
Just the thought of her heavy metal bracelet that close to the paint makes me uncomfortable.


Have no fear... myself and a number of guys were on hand to make sure no harm came to the bracelet... :D



Seriously, when I was having Swirl Girls model the cars we were all very careful around the cars the "we" all just polished out. I'm pretty good at NOT undoing hard work.

Notice how Tina keeps protects the paint between here bracelet and the paint with her finger.

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I have no doubt that you and the girls were careful, Mike - I was half joking about the bracelet.

Although, the topic does serve as a good refresher to be mindful of things such as:
rings, watches, belt buckles, zippers and metal snaps on cargo shorts.
 
I have no doubt that you and the girls were careful, Mike - I was half joking about the bracelet.

I was full joking... :laughing:
(about making sure no harm came to the bracelet)


Although, the topic does serve as a good refresher to be mindful of things such as:
rings, watches, belt buckles, zippers and metal snaps on cargo shorts.


Agreed.

In all the classes I've taught and for all the cars I've buffed out personally, I make it a practice to dress appropriately and remove anything that could damage paint.

Believe it or not, my normal clothes of choice to buff out a special interest vehicle would be mid-top Nike's with an air-cushion sole, shorts for obvious reasons and a large, soft cotton t-shirt that covers down far enough to cover the belt loops on my shorts. The reason being is that for a lot of cars at some point you have to lean on a side panel like the front fender in order to reach out and machine sand, buff or wax the middle of the hood.

You don't want to instill scratches into the paint as you're doing this so a soft t-shirt will usually work well enough. There are other options like aprons too...


Another option is to do all the steps to panels like the hood first so any marring the vertical panels accidental get are removed after all the horizontal panel work is finished.



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Mike,

I am so glad I found this forum. Being a guy who strives to do it correctly, you write and display it better than anyone anywhere... keep on keepin on brother!!! I also have many co-workers and friends who look to me as their local car care/finish expert, so I ensure to give you props when I practice your techniques and then disseminate them to the masses... consider me one of your disciples! :xyxthumbs:

I have a 2005 LS430 with RIDS, now I have the confidence to try and knock them out! Thanks for the boost in confidence.


-John
 
Mike,

I am so glad I found this forum. Being a guy who strives to do it correctly, you write and display it better than anyone anywhere... keep on keepin on brother!!!


Thank you for the kind words... I have two passions in life,

Polishing the paint on cool cars
Showing other people how to polish paint (on any car)

So my passion drives my writing, photography and the classes I teach...



I also have many co-workers and friends who look to me as their local car care/finish expert, so I ensure to give you props when I practice your techniques and then disseminate them to the masses... consider me one of your disciples! :xyxthumbs:

Sounds good... sounds like we do the same thing, help others to get what they want...


"You can have everything in life that you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want"

-Zig Ziglar






I have a 2005 LS430 with RIDS, now I have the confidence to try and knock them out! Thanks for the boost in confidence.

-John


RIDS can be tricky when working on factory paint because the paint is thin and hard. So be careful...


Also, check out my article here, it pretty much sums up how I think when it comes to car detailing and I think it speaks for a lot of other detailers too...


The Mindset of a Professional Detailer



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Awesome tip!!! Thank you Mike for sharing it, never thought about it!!
Only thing I remembered, in Thursday garage makeover you teached me
that folded microfiber cloth sharp sewed edges should be in your hand and the soft folded edges should be sliding over the cars paint. At the photos where it shows how the white microfiber is placed over the hood,the red sewed edge is sliding over the hood :)
Sorry if it's looks like I want to be a smart a...s :) Just remembered what you teached me and I am happy for all the knowledge you have given me for all this time!!
Thank you very very much!!!
 
Awesome tip!!! Thank you Mike for sharing it, never thought about it!!

It's a small or minor technique for times when you see streaks or smears. Plus it's always a good idea to wipe paint gently not coarsely.



Only thing I remembered, in Thursday garage makeover you teached me
that folded microfiber cloth sharp sewed edges should be in your hand and the soft folded edges should be sliding over the cars paint.


And that is correct. If I could take this picture used in this thread from almost 6 years ago over again I would show the technique you're describing.

What you see in this picture is okay though as my hand is inside the perimeter of the folded towel and thus not pressing down on the edges.

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The technique I use now and show simply enables you to grip the towel for more control while also making using the towel safer.


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It's a small or minor technique for times when you see streaks or smears. Plus it's always a good idea to wipe paint gently not coarsely.






And that is correct. If I could take this picture used in this thread from almost 6 years ago over again I would show the technique you're describing.

What you see in this picture is okay though as my hand is inside the perimeter of the folded towel and thus not pressing down on the edges.

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The technique I use now and show simply enables you to grip the towel for more control while also making using the towel safer.


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Got it
Every detail is really planned when you are doing the art, it's just awesome!! Love it!!
Thank you sooo much , Mike!! I wish I found you , the Autogeek store and the forum few years earlier:)


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Good Question!

Answer: Sure! You can do this if you like, it’s up to you. For the final wipe you can use your favorite quick detailer to give the finish a final wipe and this is a great way to remove any streaks and insure a uniform appearance over the entire car as well as help you to remove any trace residues that you’re eyes might have missed.

D.O. Enthusiasts and Detailers
Keep in mind that this article is written for an online audience of both enthusiast detailers as well as a few professional detailers that tend to be very A.R., (Anal Retentive), or as I like to say, D.O. which means Detailer Oriented, (sounds better, I hate using the term A.R.), and for this audience they’re looking for getting the maximum features and benefits from their LSP or Last Step Product, which is usually a wax or a paint sealant and some of these people would prefer not to wipe the finish down with any liquids until after a window of time has passed to allow all the protection ingredients to fully cure or set-up.


Leaving the maximum protection ingredients behind on he surface
The issue is about leaving as much protection on the surface as possible and the concern is if you wipe the paint down with some type of quick detailer, (a liquid), and a microfiber, (even though it’s gentle, it’s more aggressive than not touching the paint at all), after just having removed a fresh coat of wax or paint sealant, you’re disrupting the protection ingredients and probably removing some of them off the surface to some degree. This defeats the purpose of putting them on in the first place because with most D.O. enthusiasts and detailers, the goal is to leave behind as much protection possible.

The Ultimate Goal (The reason most people are waxing their cars)
The idea being to wipe the dried wax or paint sealant off the paint and then quit touching it until after the protection ingredients have fully set-up so you’ll leave the maximum amount of protection ingredients on the paint to cure or set-up.

So the Final Wipe Technique is a technique for giving your car’s paint a final, slow wipe to remove any unseen trace residue after first removing the majority of the wax so the paint looks great in any lighting condition while leaving the maximum protection ingredients on the surface.

It also provides comfort to the D.O. Enthusiasts or as they are also referred to as detailers with OCD which means, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, so they can sleep at night knowing they left the maximum amount of protection ingredients on the surface, otherwise they might not sleep or eat.

In the end, it’s personal preference, give the paint a slow, gentle final wipe using only a soft, plush microfiber polishing cloth or give the paint a final wipe using a soft, plush microfiber polishing cloth together with your favorite mist & wipe quick detailer. Just depends upon your personality and your goals.


Products Mentioned
Mist & Wipe Quick Detailers

Let me ask you this? After using a given wax, Is it normal to see a light film on the paint under a VERY high powered light? I mean the wax has to leave something behind right? If you polish the paint to perfection then use a panel wipe you are looking a fully clean paint. Using a wax there should be a film left from it to protect the paint right? you should be able to see this under a strong light? Am I wrong?
 
Let me ask you this? After using a given wax, Is it normal to see a light film on the paint under a VERY high powered light?


Probably. That's the problem with high powered lights, they reveal things you normally would not see.


I mean the wax has to leave something behind right? If you polish the paint to perfection then use a panel wipe you are looking a fully clean paint.

Using a wax there should be a film left from it to protect the paint right?

you should be able to see this under a strong light? Am I wrong?


Not really. The layer you're leaving is microscopically thin. A quality wax, sealant or coating after wipe off is gong to leave clear results. Any film would be trace residues.


I'd turn the light off, put my tools away and drive the car.


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MIke is right. Especially frustrating on pure black. I call my high power lights and stands "ugly lights". Once I pull a car inside and turn on the Ugly Lights, the real defects show and people who come to me sign up. :). Haha!


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