The Most Expensive Wax You Have Bought?

Fuzion and Souveran here. Both outstanding waxes and are a pleasure to use. Have some sample pots of Dodo Juice waxes and they were great as well. Ill probable never use all the waxes I have in my lifetime.
 
Dodo Juice Blue velvet pro, and I have never found a reason to really use anything else other than to try and burn through the rest of the waxes I have. When it runs out I will replace it and try a couple new Dodo waxes.
 
Chemical Guys E-zyme Natural Paste Wax when Autogeek had it on sale.
 
Big question I always had?

Why won't all these insanely expensive boutique waxes from the likes of Zymol, P21 Swissvax, WG, Pinnacle, Do Dos, Max Wax, etc etc etc etc hold up and last on a finish like Collinite 476, 915, Fleetwax, or even the old Blue Coral-Simonize? Me's thinking these Collinite Pastes have a "little" secret ingredient. Polymers? Cow's Milk?, Fairy Dust? What? LOL

Hand Poured, x amount high concentrations of the finest of pure Brazilian carnauba bla bla ba, selling points, BS hype, snakeoil, lucrative salesmanship, or what?

I'm well aware, severe concentrations, and it won't spread if you heat it to the boiling point. Candle Wax-Block Paraffin is what you'd have.

That they're all concoctions-blends of "something". Banana juice, coconuts, cow fats, mineral spirits, dyes, fragrances, etc etc.
 
MarkD51 said:
Big question I always had?

Why won't all these insanely expensive boutique waxes from the likes of Zymol, P21 Swissvax, WG, Pinnacle, Do Dos, Max Wax, etc etc etc etc hold up and last on a finish like Collinite 476, 915, Fleetwax, or even the old Blue Coral-Simonize? Me's thinking these Collinite Pastes have a "little" secret ingredient. Polymers? Cow's Milk?, Fairy Dust? What? LOL

Hand Poured, x amount high concentrations of the finest of pure Brazilian carnauba bla bla ba, selling points, BS hype, snakeoil, lucrative salesmanship, or what?

I'm well aware, severe concentrations, and it won't spread if you heat it to the boiling point. Candle Wax-Block Paraffin is what you'd have.

That they're all concoctions-blends of "something". Banana juice, coconuts, cow fats, mineral spirits, dyes, fragrances, etc etc.
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Are you saying they all don't last as long as Collinite 476, 915, Fleetwax, or even the old Blue Coral-Simonize? How many of them have you used?
 
runrun411 said:
In addition the OP's question. Was it worth it?
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You be the judge :)

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TundraPower said:
Are you saying they all don't last as long as Collinite 476, 915, Fleetwax, or even the old Blue Coral-Simonize? How many of them have you used?
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How many have you? I'm 60 years old, I've used pretty much every OTC product to come down the pike in that time.

Sucked in by hoopla many times, rain dance, poly-glycoat, classic, J-wax, megs, mothers, surf city, hell I can drop another 100 plus names, how much bandwidth do we got here?

I've used every Megs product to come down the pike in 35 years. #20, and the others, 26, pastes, liquids, ultimate, etc etc. Yep, easy, looks good, and one wash later there was no product left to protect. Bird Bombs scored he living #### out of my paint, only siting for an hour or two. Silicones, and shytloads of it, that's all.

Fine for a show car that I might trailer queen, from show to show, but not worth a damn for a daily driver outside 7 days a week.

I judge a product on more than just one attribute-qualiy. How does a sealant, wax, or even a coating look after one or two washes? I've come away with conclusive proof that even a lesser and cheaper product like Colly 845 stomps the raved about coatings of the like of Pinnacle Black Label, and DP Coatings. No mar resistance for one, and the initially found qualities of them gone a wash or two later.

I've got them all here, I've tested them under real world conditions. And I am not all that impressed long term by the PBMG Coatings.

Longevity? what good is any product, no matter the cost, if I'm seeing paint swirls, loss of protection within a wash or two? Not any good, if I cannot get through a 1/4th of a Midwest winter, and the finish isn't even beading?

Things like salt, and intense sun is a mo-fo. There's many products out there that will just not cut the grade, and no matter the cost.

The bottom line is, what does one expect from any product? Shine, at the sacrifice of protection-longevity?

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from and although I understand a product like Swissvax is exceptional it is not commonly available to the masses. I don't see this site selling it, do you?
 
TundraPower said:
Are you saying they all don't last as long as Collinite 476, 915, Fleetwax, or even the old Blue Coral-Simonize? How many of them have you used?
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When I've heard and read here, others commenting about this or that expensive wax only giving a couple months of protection at most, I've often asked myself why?
 
MarkD51 said:
When I've heard and read here, others commenting about this or that expensive wax only giving a couple months of protection at most, I've often asked myself why?
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What "expensive" waxes are you are referring to? I finished a black Porsche Carrera in November 2013 with two coats of Chemical Guys E-Zyme Natura. He brought it back last weekend for a refresher. The wax still beaded and sheeted (is that a word?) just great although it was clearly about done. So does over a year of daily driving and proper maintenance washings count? Sure there are "expensive" waxes that only last 2-3 months, some of them only last about 8 rain drops. But some of them can take enormous abuse and last for a very long time.
 
MarkD51 said:
How many have you? I'm 60 years old, I've used pretty much every OTC product to come down the pike in that time.

Sucked in by hoopla many times, rain dance, poly-glycoat, classic, J-wax, megs, mothers, surf city, hell I can drop another 100 plus names, how much bandwidth do we got here?

I've used every Megs product to come down the pike in 35 years. #20, and the others, 26, pastes, liquids, ultimate, etc etc. Yep, easy, looks good, and one wash later there was no product left to protect. Bird Bombs scored he living #### out of my paint, only siting for an hour or two. Silicones, and shytloads of it, that's all.

Fine for a show car that I might trailer queen, from show to show, but not worth a damn for a daily driver outside 7 days a week.

I judge a product on more than just one attribute-qualiy. How does a sealant, wax, or even a coating look after one or two washes? I've come away with conclusive proof that even a lesser and cheaper product like Colly 845 stomps the raved about coatings of the like of Pinnacle Black Label, and DP Coatings. No mar resistance for one, and the initially found qualities of them gone a wash or two later.

I've got them all here, I've tested them under real world conditions. And I am not all that impressed long term by the PBMG Coatings.

Longevity? what good is any product, no matter the cost, if I'm seeing paint swirls, loss of protection within a wash or two? Not any good, if I cannot get through a 1/4th of a Midwest winter, and the finish isn't even beading?

Things like salt, and intense sun is a mo-fo. There's many products out there that will just not cut the grade, and no matter the cost.

The bottom line is, what does one expect from any product? Shine, at the sacrifice of protection-longevity?

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from and although I understand a product like Swissvax is exceptional it is not commonly available to the masses. I don't see this site selling it, do you?
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How many have I?

Trust me you don't want to get into a wax debate with me. I have what you might call "wax issues". I collect and have used well over 100 waxes, some I store in a wine cooler, the others are in a safe deposit box, including the entire line of Swissvax, Dodo Juice, Pinnacle, Wolfgang, and many many others. Just let it go :)
 
TundraPower said:
What "expensive" waxes are you are referring to? I finished a black Porsche Carrera in November 2013 with two coats of Chemical Guys E-Zyme Natura. He brought it back last weekend for a refresher. The wax still beaded and sheeted (is that a word?) just great although it was clearly about done. So does over a year of daily driving and proper maintenance washings count? Sure there are "expensive" waxes that only last 2-3 months, some of them only last about 8 rain drops. But some of them can take enormous abuse and last for a very long time.
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I conducted a crazy little test about 2 years ago with Colly 845.

Our little city dept got a white 2011 Ford Ranger (BOTL model) with 6k on the Odo. well, it surely looked like ass, and one day, knowing I didn't have much to do that day brought in a little mobile detailing box of goodies.

Washed, scrubbed, clayed and a hand application of 845. Probably used 1/2 oz on the whole truck. Bumpers and tires simply hit with Optimum Opti-Coat Gel 1-1. Total clean out of interior, which looked like somebody lived in it for 5 months.

Truck was looking pretty darn spiffy, like it came off the showroom floor. No polishing-correcting was done, nor no other strippers-cleansers from the likes of Carpro, DP-Pinnacle.

I took most of the 845 off with my Craftsman Orbital 9" Waxer for a nostalgic kick, and a couple TerryCloth Bonnets. That was early june 2012.

Then, my boss got T-Boned about 2 weeks later, turned the truck into an eyesore pile of crap, and I said "I'm not touching this truck ever again after that screw up".

Well, I did, about 7 or so months later, took it to the yard spray wash, hit it with a filthy nasty brush on the stick with filthy water, just to get off all those months of crud, mud, filth, dust storms, and white outs from white sands.

Keep in mind the truck sat outside 24/7 though a monsoon season, and 106+ degree heat all summer.

I still saw beading, and some feel of a wax by fingernail check all those months later. Sure, it failed after that, and at this point with no further care to it, it looks 15 years old. Clear coat failure will probably be setting in soon, like so many other fairly new 3-4 year old vehicles I see here.
 
Not to get into a pissing contest about wax...But, I guess I'm going to get into a pissing contest about wax.... I've never used the PBMG coatings (the fact that they didn't come in an CQ type container made wonder how "permanent" they were) - but, I've tried many waxes as well, and I can say without a doubt Synergy ($200) is better than Collinite. It's tougher than Collinite, more resistant to chemicals than Collinite, and beads better & longer than Collinite. I'm just mentioning Collinite - because that always seems to be the benchmark for durability in see parts. In that case - you get what you pay for.

So, not every high dollar wax is a rip off. BF MS is another sort of expensive wax that has a unique look to it - fairly unrivaled. There are a lot of them.

There are a lot of very good cheap waxes as well: Natty's, P21S Concours / S100, Collinite 915, etc...

IMHO there are a lot of great cheap waxes and great expensive waxes. I wouldn't recommend someone going through a hardship or not putting food on there table to buy wax - but in the scheme of things - 200 bucks probably isn't breaking most of us - compared to the cost of other hobbies to try different waxes.
 
TundraPower said:
What "expensive" waxes are you are referring to? I finished a black Porsche Carrera in November 2013 with two coats of Chemical Guys E-Zyme Natura. He brought it back last weekend for a refresher. The wax still beaded and sheeted (is that a word?) just great although it was clearly about done. So does over a year of daily driving and proper maintenance washings count? Sure there are "expensive" waxes that only last 2-3 months, some of them only last about 8 rain drops. But some of them can take enormous abuse and last for a very long time.
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I got more durability from Zymol Concours than I was expecting. I did my bosses Vette with it. Since he owned the car wash, he'd take that poor 2010 vette through his wash, and every time, it would still bead on the top. The side brushes waste everything in due time.
 
MarkD51 said:
Big question I always had?

Why won't all these insanely expensive boutique waxes from the likes of Zymol, P21 Swissvax, WG, Pinnacle, Do Dos, Max Wax, etc etc etc etc hold up and last on a finish like Collinite 476, 915, Fleetwax, or even the old Blue Coral-Simonize? Me's thinking these Collinite Pastes have a "little" secret ingredient. Polymers? Cow's Milk?, Fairy Dust? What? LOL

Hand Poured, x amount high concentrations of the finest of pure Brazilian carnauba bla bla ba, selling points, BS hype, snakeoil, lucrative salesmanship, or what?

I'm well aware, severe concentrations, and it won't spread if you heat it to the boiling point. Candle Wax-Block Paraffin is what you'd have.

That they're all concoctions-blends of "something". Banana juice, coconuts, cow fats, mineral spirits, dyes, fragrances, etc etc.
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From what I understand, most of the waxes mentioned fall under the "beauty wax" category.

I've wondered that too. If I could have my own wax, I'd give it that Zymol "melting ice cube" look, with the 476 durability.
 
TundraPower said:
How many have I?

Trust me you don't want to get into a wax debate with me. I have what you might call "wax issues". I collect and have used well over 100 waxes, some I store in a wine cooler, the others are in a safe deposit box, including the entire line of Swissvax, Dodo Juice, Pinnacle, Wolfgang, and many many others. Just let it go :)
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Won't debate that, and as an old saying goes, "you cannot take away what a man knows", or has been, and experienced.

Such can be debated till the cows come home. Methods, and products. Some guys I know would never dare apply a wax with an applicator, the old school "dip their hands in the tub, and rub a dub dub it bare handed. I think that's a lot of BS hooey myself.

Guys I know with Mercedes, Beemers, and "How dare you ever suggest I use Collinite on my ride you low class heathen" sort of BS. Again, ignorant hoodwinked snobbery to think such products are not worthy of their so called special chariot's paint that seemingly nobody else apparently possesses on the planet.

Ferarri owners with the belief "I better stick with Zymol Ital, the only correct wax I should be using on that Italian Paint." It goes on and on.
 
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