The Most Expensive Wax You Have Bought?

dlc95 said:
I got more durability from Zymol Concours than I was expecting. I did my bosses Vette with it. Since he owned the car wash, he'd take that poor 2010 vette through his wash, and every time, it would still bead on the top. The side brushes waste everything in due time.
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What were you expecting? Crap? Zymol Concours, very similar to Swissvax Concorso, is a fabulous wax, with much better than average durability. If you use automatic car washes, "the tunnel of death", you get what you deserve!
 
TundraPower said:
What "expensive" waxes are you are referring to? I finished a black Porsche Carrera in November 2013 with two coats of Chemical Guys E-Zyme Natura. He brought it back last weekend for a refresher. The wax still beaded and sheeted (is that a word?) just great although it was clearly about done. So does over a year of daily driving and proper maintenance washings count? Sure there are "expensive" waxes that only last 2-3 months, some of them only last about 8 rain drops. But some of them can take enormous abuse and last for a very long time.
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Please expand.... You are the one that buys $5000.00 waxes... Educate us...
 
MarkD51 said:
Won't debate that, and as an old saying goes, "you cannot take away what a man knows", or has been, and experienced.

Such can be debated till the cows come home. Methods, and products. Some guys I know would never dare apply a wax with an applicator, the old school "dip their hands in the tub, and rub a dub dub it bare handed. I think that's a lot of BS hooey myself.

Guys I know with Mercedes, Beemers, and "How dare you ever suggest I use Collinite on my ride you low class heathen" sort of BS. Again, ignorant hoodwinked snobbery to think such products are not worthy of their so called special chariot's paint that seemingly nobody else apparently possesses on the planet.

Ferarri owners with the belief "I better stick with Zymol Ital, the only correct wax I should be using on that Italian Paint." It goes on and on.
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I'll have to side with you here, although I think "hoodwinked snobbery" is a little harsh. LOLOLOLOL. Applying wax with your bare hands is okay if you have really soft skin. LOLOLOL.
 
TundraPower said:
What were you expecting? Crap? Zymol Concours, very similar to Swissvax Concorso, is a fabulous wax, with much better than average durability. If you use automatic car washes, "the tunnel of death", you get what you deserve!
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To be honest, I had no idea what to expect. I knew that I loved Carbon, so I felt confident that I would like most everything else from them.
 
TundraPower said:
I'll have to side with you here, although I think "hoodwinked snobbery" is a little harsh. LOLOLOLOL. Applying wax with your bare hands is okay if you have really soft skin. LOLOLOL.
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If you apply it by hand and have really rough hands. Wouldn't that make it a polishing wax? Like Meguiar's Black Wax? :dunno:

Or if you have really rough MAN hands wouldn't that be more like D151 where it has more cut that M205?

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People often think Collie 845 is not a beauty wax, however what ever colour paint I topped with 845 looked gorgeous, 99.9% of people would be over the moon happy with their paint finished with it. Collie 915 on the otherhand takes the gloss of 845/476 and just adds a dimension of depth to it on any paint colour. Waxes and sealants are not colour specefic, theres no artificial intelligence built into them. If an lsp makes black look good it will make white or any other color look good too. I've tested Poorboys blackhole on white cars and white diamond on black cars, the glaze couldn't tell what colour car I was applying it to and did its job just fine. The products apply to the paint not in the paint, theres no mixing in there, everything is surface level. My point is people are suckers for marketing hype and all reason flies out the window. Wax/sealant marketing are like booze,deodorant or any other type of must have product - sensationalised, glamourised- buying the product will not get you the hot blonde,sportcar,yacht,island holiday, its just a deodorant. The wax will promise you the stars, well I've got news for you...
 
$100,000 for wax? I'd have someone strip the car down, re-paint it, add tons of layers of clearcoat, and then just cover it with a good coating.

Then I'd sell the stupid thing and buy something else. If I had $100,000 to spend on a car; I wouldn't still be owning a Focus! :D (Though I do love my car!)
 
Hi.I have bought Collinite 476 last week..not that expensive but im sure this is one of a very durable waxes ;)


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TundraPower said:
Actually the highest priced wax I own is $3500, Swissvax Divine, nothing in the $5000 range.
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I can understand such, if a professional has a good number of regular hi-end customers who specifically request such for 6 and 7 figure rides, and that costs are hopefully recouped.

Here down in the desert southwest, I'd probably starve offering $50-$75 full blown paint corrections-details with CQuartz Coatings. LOL That ain't no joke neither.

People are very tight here for things like this, they seem to believe is some ripoff snakeoil, but many will "sign on the dotted line" for a $60K+ Pickup Truck.

And my beloved Tahoe, heck, if I went to trade it at the local dealer that's about what they'd be offering me, about $3500 (if I was lucky), even though I just threw $2600 worth of wheels-tires on it.

Nope, cannot "play with the big boys" I'm afraid, but some truth could probably be said, if I threw a coat of $3500 Swisswax Divine, or Colly 915, Fuzion, or some other lesser, but very good paste, would a customer actually know it if he wasn't standing over me watching me apply it?

We all of course see-know what a master like Mike Phillips is capable of with lesser products in hand.
 
TundraPower said:
How many have I?

Trust me you don't want to get into a wax debate with me. I have what you might call "wax issues". I collect and have used well over 100 waxes, some I store in a wine cooler, the others are in a safe deposit box, including the entire line of Swissvax, Dodo Juice, Pinnacle, Wolfgang, and many many others. Just let it go :)
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Dude, thank you so much for having those "wax issues". Although I don't have well over 100 waxes I do have quite a few. As well as sealants, polishes, MF towel and well you know the rest. You renew my belief that I'm not the only one with "detailing supplies issues". :xyxthumbs:

MarkD51 said:
How many have you? I'm 60 years old, I've used pretty much every OTC product to come down the pike in that time.

Sucked in by hoopla many times, rain dance, poly-glycoat, classic, J-wax, megs, mothers, surf city, hell I can drop another 100 plus names, how much bandwidth do we got here?

I've used every Megs product to come down the pike in 35 years. #20, and the others, 26, pastes, liquids, ultimate, etc etc. Yep, easy, looks good, and one wash later there was no product left to protect. Bird Bombs scored he living #### out of my paint, only siting for an hour or two. Silicones, and shytloads of it, that's all.

Fine for a show car that I might trailer queen, from show to show, but not worth a damn for a daily driver outside 7 days a week.

I judge a product on more than just one attribute-qualiy. How does a sealant, wax, or even a coating look after one or two washes? I've come away with conclusive proof that even a lesser and cheaper product like Colly 845 stomps the raved about coatings of the like of Pinnacle Black Label, and DP Coatings. No mar resistance for one, and the initially found qualities of them gone a wash or two later.

I've got them all here, I've tested them under real world conditions. And I am not all that impressed long term by the PBMG Coatings.

Longevity? what good is any product, no matter the cost, if I'm seeing paint swirls, loss of protection within a wash or two? Not any good, if I cannot get through a 1/4th of a Midwest winter, and the finish isn't even beading?

Things like salt, and intense sun is a mo-fo. There's many products out there that will just not cut the grade, and no matter the cost.

The bottom line is, what does one expect from any product? Shine, at the sacrifice of protection-longevity?

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from and although I understand a product like Swissvax is exceptional it is not commonly available to the masses. I don't see this site selling it, do you?
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I must say you have a damn good point about LSPs. IMHO it seems that a lot of companies market these products to last months and then after a couple of rainstorms the beading goes flat. I do realize that no beading doesn't always mean no protection but I do love the bead party. One good way to tell if an LSP is holding up is to wash the car with a product that has no protection properties or stripping properties. A product like D114 or CG W&C. So since you've used over 100 waxes, which ones do you think really work? I do agree about that 845 and I think the real question about it is once it's on how do you get it off? LOL Just my .02
 
Anyone try CG XXX? Decently priced but the CG write up is typical marketing hype which is kinda off putting, also anyone try their butter wet wax?
 
I went to Francis Ford coppolas winery a couple years ago. I couldn't tell the difference between $100 bottle of wine to a $10 bottle. Most of you guys are really good detailers. I consider myself a protectionist and keep my car looking pretty nice. But I would bet myself my retirement that I couldn't tell the difference between a $20 wax and a $10,000 wax
 
runrun411 said:
Dude, thank you so much for having those "wax issues". Although I don't have well over 100 waxes I do have quite a few. As well as sealants, polishes, MF towel and well you know the rest. You renew my belief that I'm not the only one with "detailing supplies issues". :xyxthumbs:



I must say you have a damn good point about LSPs. IMHO it seems that a lot of companies market these products to last months and then after a couple of rainstorms the beading goes flat. I do realize that no beading doesn't always mean no protection but I do love the bead party. One good way to tell if an LSP is holding up is to wash the car with a product that has no protection properties or stripping properties. A product like D114 or CG W&C. So since you've used over 100 waxes, which ones do you think really work? I do agree about that 845 and I think the real question about it is once it's on how do you get it off? LOL Just my .02
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Washed my junkmobile Kia Spectra just earlier. The last LSP I applied was Colly 845 about a month ago. Washed with Duragloss Shampoo, rinsed, nice tight beads.

Dried, and applied Duragloss Aquawax. Looking good. Cheap and Good don't always play well together in the same sentence, but sometimes they do.

Now, as for the expensive goodies, I'm of course not against somebody spending $100, $200, $300 or maybe more for a pot of Wax. "If" such a vehicle's quality and cost-value dictate that such can and maybe should be used.

On my Kia, Swissvax would probably be insanity. Now if my vehicle was a Ferarri 458, maybe a Porsche Panamera, a '57 Chevy or '40 Ford with an expensive, flawlessly applied custom paint job I'd then surely consider the Uber goodies for sure.

All relative I reckon.

On the other hand, I'd say it is safe to assume that anything, and I mean just about any product, even from the Dollar Store is without a doubt better than nothing. And that's a huge problem I see here in this area, and why I see clearcoat failures in a mere few year's time. I think the reasons for such are fairly obvious.
 
frankprozzoly said:
I went to Francis Ford coppolas winery a couple years ago. I couldn't tell the difference between $100 bottle of wine to a $10 bottle. Most of you guys are really good detailers. I consider myself a protectionist and keep my car looking pretty nice. But I would bet myself my retirement that I couldn't tell the difference between a $20 wax and a $10,000 wax
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I'm sure 90 percent of the people cant tell the difference. I guess the only difference there would be in this case is how good do you feel about your LSP after you see it on your car.
 
Zubair said:
I know its 95% in the prep and many fight about the same product just placebo gets the better of them when the only real difference is the packaging and labelling. Others spend a fortune and as a result their brain automatically makes the paint look shinier.

Insanity...
Zubair said:
The fact that people actually paid $100K in links above is just psychotic, cheaper to get the car repainted heck cheaper to buy more cars. I can understand the fascination of $20-$100 waxes, anything more is just an illusion.
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custmsprty said:
Just proves how easy it is to separate rich people from their money if they feel like they are paying for exclusivity.
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Zubair said:
Fuzion would make sense to me if the outlay was $95 without the need of having to pay double so you get a free jar. They would sell much more this way. But Collinite 915 Marque D'Elegance sold for $200 in a fancy tub would have been the greatest sensation, its all in the marketing and presentation. The rest is placebo...
Zubair said:
Can you imagine what Fuzion would cost us here? Probably R4000!
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TundraPower said:
Swissvax Divine.
runrun411 said:
In addition the OP's question. Was it worth it?
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Zubair said:
My point is people are suckers for marketing hype and all reason flies out the window. Wax/sealant marketing are like booze,deodorant or any other type of must have product - sensationalised, glamourised...

The wax will promise you the stars, well I've got news for you...
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IMHO:
As demonstrated above...This subject matter could be debated 'til the cows come home without ever, ever...never reaching a resolution.

However...(and as far as I'm concerned):
Isn't the price of anything...including car-care products... the amount of ones own life they are willing to exchange for it?


Bob
 
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