The Pan video...you know the one, discuss!
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psnt1ol
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I personally dont have any issues with any of the youtube detailers as I look at them through the the lens of entertainment. I find more real life experiences on forums such as AGO and other similar message boards. I certainly dont have problems with anyone who is trying to make a living. A teacher of mine once told me... "just because its on TV doesnt mean it is a fact". It is unfortunate that we have come to a place where the public as a whole dont exercise general skepticisms toward the things we see in social medias, YouTube, and the news.
However, I do find it troubling that private communications or information be aired out in the open like that.
However, I do find it troubling that private communications or information be aired out in the open like that.
BudgetPlan1
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Wouldn’t it be something if this was all planned out to gain views and subscribers on all channels
If that were true I'd subscribe to all of their channels and generate as many clicks for them as I could just outta respect. Still wouldn't buy anything solely based upon their content but a few revenue-generating clicks would be in order to pay homage to their craftiness. :dblthumb2:
oneheadlite
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This whole situation is like a Real Housewives show - it's either your kind of drama, or it isn't. (Not for me, thank you).
Wouldn't it be a real mind bender, if like a reality TV show they got together behind the scenes to create the drama that unfolded? I'm sure all parties involved are getting an uptick in clicks/views/etc... (I have zero proof this is the case, but anything's possible on the internet).
My 2 cents - Personally, I never cared for Pan on the forum here. As others have mentioned he always has felt like an advertiser, not a community member. Knowing how the digital world works, I just chose to never click his (or a lot of other) YouTube links because I prefer to have more say in who gets money for my view (even if it's pennies - they add up).
Wouldn't it be a real mind bender, if like a reality TV show they got together behind the scenes to create the drama that unfolded? I'm sure all parties involved are getting an uptick in clicks/views/etc... (I have zero proof this is the case, but anything's possible on the internet).
My 2 cents - Personally, I never cared for Pan on the forum here. As others have mentioned he always has felt like an advertiser, not a community member. Knowing how the digital world works, I just chose to never click his (or a lot of other) YouTube links because I prefer to have more say in who gets money for my view (even if it's pennies - they add up).
oneheadlite
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Wouldn’t it be something if this was all planned out to gain views and subscribers on all channels
Dang it Guz, you posted that while I was typing! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Azure
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I guess I'm a sucker, even though I've only bought two products he has presented. I'm so hurt buy this, not sure what to do at this point.
JDGolden
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No need for the drama in an industry/hobby where people should be helping each other. At least I feel like AG members help each other out. This type of crap really sours viewers, and all involved will probably lose followers. I saw it happen with some ATV youtubers.
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Make up your own mind on how those products perform. Use them up if they are good enough for you. Donate them if they are not.
Don't buy any more products by watching Pan videos without doing more research to get a wider range of feedback on their performance.
dennis b
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Your not alone. A couple of years ago Pan did a video with the Rag Company about Beadmaker. Pan was so over the top impressed with the performance that I bought in and purchased a gallon from Amazon. Well it didn't work out so well for me. I found Beadmaker as a drying aid streaked, attracted copious amounts of dust and had no longevity. I tossed the gallon after using about a quart of it. I now look for multiple reviews and wait for the initial hoopla to die down before I try new products.
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PaulMys
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Exactly. I always run it by at least 3-4 guys here on AGO to get their takes on any new product(s) before I consider buying them.
Beadmaker was a little different in that it was so cheap, I just grabbed some. I knew it was pretty much all hype after a few uses, but I didn't hate it. I will still use it for a quick WW wipedown on occasion over my LSP. But it also gets used on my lawn equipment. Something that would NEVER happen with any of my favorite products.
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Exactly. I always run it by at least 3-4 guys here on AGO to get their takes on any new product(s) before I consider buying them.
Beadmaker was a little different in that it was so cheap, I just grabbed some. I knew it was pretty much all hype after a few uses, but I didn't hate it. I will still use it for a quick WW wipedown on occasion over my LSP. But it also gets used on my lawn equipment. Something that would NEVER happen with any of my favorite products.
My main issue with Beadmaker was the dust attraction. After I wash and use a drying aid my car sits out in the open in my condo parking lot. Beadmaker takes a few hours to cure so all the while it would catch and hold every dust particle that touched the paint from cars going back and forth in the community. Had I not jumped on the Beadmaker bandwagon so fast I would have seen the numerous reviews about dust attraction that I encountered. Oh well, hindsight is 20/20. :laughing:
PaulMys
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What LSP were/are you using, Dennis?
dennis b
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It's been awhile but I think I was using either Duragloss 105 mixed with 601 or 111. Are you thinking there was a compatibility issue? Duragloss is a simple polymer and not something exotic so I'd think there wouldn't be any complications.
I do remember that when I switched to Aquawax as a drying aid the dust attraction issue went away.
PaulMys
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Yeah. That was exactly what I was thinking.
I have never used the DG 105/601/111, but with the Collinite I use I never noticed any extra dust attraction. But with all of the comments about it, I am sure it is a real issue.
Could it be that the Collinite shook off the BM like a bad case of fleas? Lol
Either way, like I posted above...... BM isn't all that.
dennis b
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Yeah. That was exactly what I was thinking.
I have never used the DG 105/601/111, but with the Collinite I use I never noticed any extra dust attraction. But with all of the comments about it, I am sure it is a real issue.
Could it be that the Collinite shook off the BM like a bad case of fleas? Lol
Either way, like I posted above...... BM isn't all that.
Haha and maintaining a car in South Florida isn't all that either. Humidity wreaks havoc with a lot of products. For example, the humidity this morning was 89% according to Alexa. Right now she says it's 79%. Snowbirds have begun a mass exodus already.
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Dennis, you literally threw it out? I mean it's your product to do what you will with but my God man you could've given it away here, even traded something for THAT much leftover.
I can't say I've noticed the dust attraction as much but I do like the Gloss and slickness it provides. As far as streaking goes...NEVER had that issue but that's me, your experience was different and recently Pan has said as much about products due to conditions and other variables.
It's funny how the thread has trickled down to Beadmaker, product gets so much attention one way or the other!
I know this, Gyeon Wax was on his best Gloss video and no matter what anyone thinks about Pan the product is out of stock everywhere! Gyeon isn't a hype brand one bit, they make no crazy durability claims and no cheesy ads, just products that work and once it becomes available I'll be getting it to try it out
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I can't say I've noticed the dust attraction as much but I do like the Gloss and slickness it provides. As far as streaking goes...NEVER had that issue but that's me, your experience was different and recently Pan has said as much about products due to conditions and other variables.
It's funny how the thread has trickled down to Beadmaker, product gets so much attention one way or the other!
I know this, Gyeon Wax was on his best Gloss video and no matter what anyone thinks about Pan the product is out of stock everywhere! Gyeon isn't a hype brand one bit, they make no crazy durability claims and no cheesy ads, just products that work and once it becomes available I'll be getting it to try it out
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dennis b
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Yeah I threw it out. But I do give a lot away. Half of my neighbors (the one's that don't treat their cars like an appliance) are using Platinum Pluffle towels, Double Twistress towels, HS Wet Wax, Megs Hyper Wash, Aquawax and a bunch of other products that I've moved on from. I don't have a garage so no space for products that I'll never use. :xyxthumbs:
My apologies for derailing this thread to all those looking for more dirt on Pan. I don't really have any.:laughing:
My apologies for derailing this thread to all those looking for more dirt on Pan. I don't really have any.:laughing:
MisterSnoop
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Why don't you like Hyper Wash?
dennis b
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It doesn't clean that well. Especially hard water spots. Reset cleans water spots better. Once I tried Reset everything else was a distant second. I do use Adam's blue soap on my wheels because Reset is a little on the expensive side and it's hard to get (at a decent price) for the last year. I'm trying to make my stash (seven 500ml bottles) of Reset last.
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