This product is a game changer! - 22ple VX1 Pro Coating

BlackRam said:
It sounds like 22ple has better gloss than most but durability is in question?
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It's gloss is on par with other silica coatings like CQuartz uk... You can easily expect a year of good beading and sheeting. You will see longer periods of beading if you maintain the coating with proper decontamination and cleaning methods.
 
I love 22ple pro coating! Gloss is incredible, beading is insane! And best of all - application is super easy. Its the easiest coating to apply and remove I've tried to date, with Pinnacle Black label following it. Original Cquartz is MUCH harder to remove. Easy removal is a must when working on ultra soft BMW Jet black paints.
 
supercharged said:
I love 22ple pro coating! Gloss is incredible, beading is insane! And best of all - application is super easy. Its the easiest coating to apply and remove I've tried to date, with Pinnacle Black label following it. Original Cquartz is MUCH harder to remove. Easy removal is a must when working on ultra soft BMW Jet black paints.
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Sergei, pls let us know how the durability compares to the BL coating.


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Is application is easier than CQ FINEST? I have no plans to start using 22ple, I'm just curious, as I'm in love with CQ :)

-Beach
 
Just02896 said:
Just wondering what your thoughts are on durability.
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I got a very solid 12 months of exceptional beading, sheeting, and shine from this product. After about 10-11 months the beading started diminishing a bit. Up to this point, I had simply done routine maintenance washes at least every 2 weeks (except in winter when it was washed whenever possible... sometimes as long as one month in between washes). Once I noticed performance was starting to degrade, I did a complete decontamination wash and iron x treatment. This brought back some of the original beading, but at that point I simply added CarPro Reload to boost performance. Note: The gloss was still amazing!!

Reload added incredible beading and sheeting. It easily lasts several months on top of the coating, so IMO it is a great product to use to help prolong the life of your coating. It has been about 1.5 years since I originally coated my car, and I plan to polish it and re-coat it with something different this summer (which will be about 1.75 years after initial application).

I have really enjoyed the 22ple product on my car (my wife's car has it too, and it is still going strong after 10 months: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ation-paint-correction-22ple-application.html). I have, however, stopped offering 22ple as a service to my customers and started using CQuartz UK. I have found that UK provides the same great looks and performance, but it less expensive therefore I can offer it at a lower price so more people have the option of upgrading to a protective coating.

BeachZone said:
Is application is easier than CQ FINEST? I have no plans to start using 22ple, I'm just curious, as I'm in love with CQ :)

-Beach
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"Easy" is a very subjective term in this sense.

CQuartz Finest is "easy" to apply in that it is simple to wipe on and simple to wipe off, however it is a product that takes a lot of time and patience to get right. Depending on ambient conditions (temp and humidity), Finest may need to be left on the paint for 1-2 hours before wiping away.

22ple is also very easy to wipe on and wipe off, and is simply wiped away after 3-5 minutes (I believe) depending on your ambient conditions.





This is a quick iPhone picture I took of the beading on my car a couple of days ago after a simple coin-op power wash. This is at least 3 months after Reload was applied.

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Nice work.
How does CQUK compare to 22ple as far as removing it?
 
bigez said:
Nice work.
How does CQUK compare to 22ple as far as removing it?
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You mean after initial application? Like after you have wiped it on, then waited a few minutes... Or are you talking about 2 years later when you want to polish it off?

If you are referring to leveling it during application, 22ple is slightly easier, but UK is not difficult by any means.
 
I'm curious if reload would have prolonged the protection of the 22ple if applied at the 1 or 2 month mark after coating. I'm guessing so.
 
Sorry-- Yes, was talking about removing it after initial application.
Thanks for the quick response!

I might just try UK then!


zmcgovern45 said:
You mean after initial application? Like after you have wiped it on, then waited a few minutes... Or are you talking about 2 years later when you want to polish it off?

If you are referring to leveling it during application, 22ple is slightly easier, but UK is not difficult by any means.
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Just02896 said:
I'm curious if reload would have prolonged the protection of the 22ple if applied at the 1 or 2 month mark after coating. I'm guessing so.
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^yes, definitely. I recommend using iron x every 3-4 months followed by reload to maintain your coating and prolong the hydrophobic properties. In this case, I simply wanted to "see what if" as I know many of my customers will not do much more than wash the vehicle in between their appointments.

bigez said:
Sorry-- Yes, was talking about removing it after initial application.
Thanks for the quick response!

I might just try UK then!
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I highly recommend UK. I now offer it as a low cost alternative to CQuartz Finest and am very pleased with how it has performed.
 
Just to be clear, in your experience its a toss up in gloss, durability, slickness, just a tad different in application, but 22ple vs cquartz uk are the same?
 
BlackRam said:
Just to be clear, in your experience its a toss up in gloss, durability, slickness, just a tad different in application, but 22ple vs cquartz uk are the same?
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In my personal opinion, the gloss is fantastic with either product, the slickness is as well. Application is easy with both products, but 22ple has the slight advantage. The lower cost of UK easily outweighs that slight application advantage.


Here are 2 example photos... this is the exact same car (which belongs to my dad). The first photo is the vehicle coated with 22ple VX1 Pro. This is OEM paint.

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In the second photo, the vehicle has been repainted, and was polished and coated with CQuartz UK.
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Now understand that these photos are taken in different lighting conditions, so they are not an exact comparison, but you can see that the gloss is excellent with both products.
 
Anyone apply a second coat of 22PLE >48h after the initial coat?

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kevincwelch said:
Anyone apply a second coat of 22PLE >48h after the initial coat?

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Upon my initial application, I did a 2nd coat to all horizontal surfaces (hood, roof, trunk) approximately 7 hours after starting the first coat.

The only reason I did this was because I had plenty of product left over in my 30mL bottle. I did not notice a difference in durability or gloss between the areas with 2 coats or the areas with 1 coat.
 
That's basically why I asked: I have half a bottle left. I may use it on some of the more high impact areas because I'm not sure it will last another year in the bottle before going bad. Don't know...

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