Thoughts and ideas required for upcoming car show

Jon TDS

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Hey guys, need to pick your brain. I have a client that wants his Corvette ppf and coated at some time. He is going to a car show next week. What can I offer him before he gets his car ppfd and coated?

I was thinking maybe just a mild polish like a 205? Then what can I put down as lsp? Haven't been offering wax or sealant so I'm having a hard time. Or should I just do an aio?

Help!

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Also I need to be mindful that the ceramic coating job that I have for this is going to be soon rather than later. Lastly ppf only on the front end. So maybe ceramic on panels where he won't apply ppf?

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Probably only a couple of days before the car show.

5 miles on the vehicle. Inspection tomorrow.

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Look at the paint on the Corvette in my RUPES BigFoot 21 Mark III review

Review: RUPES Mark III BigFoot 21 Polisher by Mike Phillips


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After I detailed it - people kept asking me,

What coating did you use?


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Wow! Paint is looking wet!

I was thinking of the jeweling polish/wax before your comment so the universe is agreeing!

Maybe a stupid question, how different is this from aios like hd speed, cpro essence, or megs d166?

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Jon TDS said:
Wow! Paint is looking wet!
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This Corvette belongs to Mike Stowe's wife. Mike Stowe is the founder and former owner, president and CEO of Classic Instruments. It's a 2014 and while Mike and his wife took very good care of it in most ways, they told me they don't think they had ever waxed it, just washed and dried. It was low-swirl, low scratch and the Jeweling Wax with the RUPES BigFoot 21 Mark III cleaner her and really well. I was impressed with not only the wax but also the latest version of the BigFoot 21.


Jon TDS said:
I was thinking of the jeweling polish/wax before your comment so the universe is agreeing!
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It's a tick on the spendy side but it uses top notch abrasive technology.



Jon TDS said:
Maybe a stupid question, how different is this from aios like hd speed, cpro essence, or megs d166?
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Out of those three choices, I would give the edge to 3D speed for cut, finish quality, ease of use and ease of wipe-off.


I'd also say they all have a tick more cut than a jeweling wax.


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Jon TDS said:
I have a client that wants his Corvette
ppf and coated at some time.

He is going to a car show next week.
What can I offer him before he gets
his car ppfd and coated?

I was thinking maybe just a mild polish like
a 205? Then what can I put down as lsp?
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•IMO...for a situation like this:
-Meguiar’s M205 (what with its Trade Secret
polishing oils) would be an excellent choice
for providing additional gloss to the paint.

-Afterwards, Meguiar’s M26 [renowned for
its highly-rated DOI (distinction-of-image)
qualification], would be both a fantastic
complementary, and complimentary LSP.


On a personal note:
-I would probably “gloss-up the paint” with
3M Imperial Hand Glaze...and call it a day.

{IMO: There’s no pressing need for a
sacrificial layer of paint protection for
such a short-term event.}

-Of course...a spray Detailer may come
in handy upon arrival to the Car Show.
May have picked up a bug or two.


Bob
 
Hey Bob, the glaze is something I wanted to do as well but not on hand. I'm going to talk to the client later and see what he thinks. So far, I have an aio similar to what Mike suggested or polish then lsp combo.

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Hey Bob, just realized I can get my hand on either 3m or megs glaze. I suppose a glaze would be better vs a polish for this purpose? I would apply the glaze by a finishing pad correct?

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Just to chime in...

Bob is correct that for a single day at a car show, you could easily get away with a quality polish. Just polish, wipe off and show the car. Take a spray detailer for dust.




Jon TDS said:
I suppose a glaze would be better vs a polish for this purpose?
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The difference between using a polish or glaze versus using a product like 3D Speed or Pinnacle Jeweling Wax or BLACKFIRE One Step is this,


1: The polish and the glaze are both oily and will leave a wet or oily surface. The resulting finish will not be slippery in to the touch or "wipe" like a product that dries.

2: The above three one-step cleaner/waxes - properly used, are allowed to DRY and leave a dry, hard shine.




I've done both I my life prepping cars for shows and I would always opt for my LSP to be a product that dries and leaves a slippery finish.



Jon TDS said:
I would apply the glaze by a finishing pad correct?
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Yes a very soft foam finishing pad. Apply a thin coat and remove before it dries.



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Thanks both!

Quick question on the glaze so I have a holistic view on it when I talk to my client... I would think that adding a sacrificial layer post glaze is wise.

I am assuming here but you don't do an IPA wipe post glaze as this will remove the oils. So best bet it to add a carnauba (or sealant?) on top, correct masters?

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Mike Phillips said:
Just to chime in...

Bob is correct that for a single day at a car show, you could easily get away with a quality polish. Just polish, wipe off and show the car. Take a spray detailer for dust.






The difference between using a polish or glaze versus using a product like 3D Speed or Pinnacle Jeweling Wax or BLACKFIRE One Step is this,


1: The polish and the glaze are both oily and will leave a wet or oily surface. The resulting finish will not be slippery in to the touch or "wipe" like a product that dries.

2: The above three one-step cleaner/waxes - properly used, are allowed to DRY and leave a dry, hard shine.




I've done both I my life prepping cars for shows and I would always opt for my LSP to be a product that dries and leaves a slippery finish.





Yes a very soft foam finishing pad. Apply a thin coat and remove before it dries.



:)
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Hey Mike, I can get away with there finishing pad instead of by hand with a terry cloth?

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From my experience with painting and show car prep (years ago 1970s-1990s) I always found that glazes provided the highest level of gloss and reflectivity. Any wax applied after the glaze would tone down and kill the gloss to some degree.

Obviously times have changed and there are many more products available today but I would think the same still applies, discounting some sealants and coatings.

My glazes of choice from the early years were Liquid Ebony and 3M Fill and Glaze (pink). As time proceeded my glazes of choice were Meguiar's #3 and #7.

If I were in your shoes I'd do Meguiar's #3 or #7 and call it a day.
 
Thanks my man

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Going with glaze!

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