Thoughts on using a paint cleaner/cleanser after polish???

I have both P21S paint cleansing lotion (which i hate :P) and Pinnacle Paint cleaner (which is awesome) and I have applied both of them by hand with a LC red pad. Should I be applying them by machine with a different pad? White pad? Green Pad? Gray pad? I am thinking either the white or green.

Thanks in advance,
Dennis
 
im confused then whats the purpose of useing a finishing polish if your going to remove it with a paint cleaner??
 
ASPHALT ROCKET said:
You are removing the left over oils that can possibly fill.
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ok?then why use a finishing polish to shine the car up if your going to remove it with a paint cleaner anyways?To me it looks like your wasting your time.
 
94LT1 said:
ok?then why use a finishing polish to shine the car up if your going to remove it with a paint cleaner anyways?To me it looks like your wasting your time.
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You are removing the oils not the shine.
 
Isn't a nice IPA wipe down a lot cheaper? Does the same right?I mean the OP is just trying to get rid of the oils. Like rasky said, some polishes help the waxes sealant adhere to the paint.
 
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loudog2 said:
Isn't a nice IPA wipe down a lot cheaper? Does the same right?I mean the OP is just trying to get rid of the oils. Like rasky said, some polishes help the waxes sealant adhere to the paint.
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I don't believe that too be true. Most sealants need a clean surface to bond to. Yes, an IPA wipe down would be cheaper than Prep Sol. When you do a wipe down it not only cleans the paint of oils left by your polish, but it also allows you to inspect the paint for any marring that you might have missed during polishing.
 
94LT1 said:
what color pad would u use to shine up the paint with?and what speed on a pc?would i work it as long as i work the SR??
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Use a gray pad on speed 5 or 6 and work it till it goes clear.
 
Rsurfer said:
I don't believe that too be true. Most sealants need a clean surface to bond to. Yes, an IPA wipe down would be cheaper than Prep Sol. When you do a wipe down it not only cleans the paint of oils left by your polish, but it also allows you to inspect the paint for any marring that you might have missed during polishing.
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I always wash again after polishing. I'll use my pressure washer to get the dust out of the cracks, then the foam cannon. Followed by a wash.
 
I have been looking over posts here and on other sites. I see some of the "high end" detailers sometimes using paint cleaners before LSP. Are they using it merely for the sake of using it, or is a wipe down of prepsol the same, just not as fancy? I have both, just wondering what the general idea is on it? What do the cleaners have or do that IPA/PS do not?
 
Rsurfer said:
You are removing the oils not the shine.
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But the oils in the polishes add depth, shine, and gloss. So by removing them the paint doesn't look as good as it did before the wipe down. If you use a cleaner after doing a test spot, once your process is dialed in you should not have to worry about marring, and RIDS should show up under a xenon or halogen light.

Does anyone have an example of a bottle of finishing polish that states the polish should be removed before applying a wax/sealant to ensure proper bonding?

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RaskyR1 said:
But the oils in the polishes add depth, shine, and gloss. So by removing them the paint doesn't look as good as it did before the wipe down. If you use a cleaner after doing a test spot, once your process is dialed in you should not have to worry about marring, and RIDS should show up under a xenon or halogen light.

Does anyone have an example of a bottle of finishing polish that states the polish should be removed before applying a wax/sealant to ensure proper bonding?

:confused:
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i was thinking the same thing
 
RaskyR1 said:
But the oils in the polishes add depth, shine, and gloss. So by removing them the paint doesn't look as good as it did before the wipe down. If you use a cleaner after doing a test spot, once your process is dialed in you should not have to worry about marring, and RIDS should show up under a xenon or halogen light.

Does anyone have an example of a bottle of finishing polish that states the polish should be removed before applying a wax/sealant to ensure proper bonding?

:confused:
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I have never seen less gloss after an IPA wipe down.
 
im thinking of using pinnacle paint cleansing lotion with a few drops of show car glaze mixed in. anyone ever do that?
 
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