TIRE TALK!, What brand and model of tires do you guys like, and why?

Thejoyofdriving

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Hi guys, My rear tires on my Bimmer are worn so i am throwing out the conti's 225/45 which have a traction rating of A, Temp A, and tread wear 280, and i am going to buy the same tires that i have on my front, some Good year Eagle F1's max summer performance, Wich are also 225/45 but they have a traction rating of AA, temp of A, and also tread wear 280. So i am going to be runing Eagle F1's on all 4 cornersIm the MAN:awesome::righton:. I usually keep my front psi around 34 (cold) and back like 31 (cold), i do this to help with the under steer. I was wondering what type of tires do you guys use and what Psi do you guys use for performace driving in the F/R(street, not track).
 
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Nothing special here. I dont do any "performance" driving on the street.

Dunlop SP Sport 5000 275/40/17 mounted on 17x9's
Sumitomo 315/35/17 mounted on 17x10.5's

PSI is 32 all around.
 
if you want something to last longer get higher tread wear 280 ya not going to get a lot of mileage and for name brand bf goodrich good brand for the cost but its all up to you if ya think brand are better about 32 psi would do in some but lowpro files i would but max psi whats stamped on the tire or 5 psi lower i hate lowpro files looks good but will mess up the rims im 12 yrs ex tire man stoped worksing last yr parents been in bussiness for 20 some yrs
 
jimbo said:
if you want something to last longer get higher tread wear 280 ya not going to get a lot of mileage and for name brand bf goodrich good brand for the cost but its all up to you if ya think brand are better about 32 psi would do in some but lowpro files i would but max psi whats stamped on the tire or 5 psi lower i hate lowpro files looks good but will mess up the rims im 12 yrs ex tire man stoped worksing last yr parents been in bussiness for 20 some yrs

I had a hard time understanding what you wrote there buddy, could you please revise what you wrote and clear it up a bit, thanks. :)
 
Get a higher tread wear rating then 280 if you want the tire to last longer. BF Goodrich is a good brand for the money. 32psi is good for some tires, but should use max psi for low profile tires, or 5psi lower then max (WHY?). Low profile tires look good, but will mess up the rim (HOW?). Sounds like he was a tire man (whatever that means?) for 12 years, but stopped working last year. Parents have been in the business for ~20 years.

Wasnt that hard to understand....
 
I got some parts, but for me it was abit confusing. I am not an expert but i am fairly knowlageable when it comes to tires. Unfortunatly, some of the information provided by jimbo is wrong. you should never, never, never pump your tires up to its max pressure, or even 5psi below. Besides it being dangerous(blow out) it also causes performance loss, because it "bows" the tire. Basicly adding too much air to the tire reduces the contact patch to the road. Also the general rule of thumb is that about every 10F increase in temprature brings the internal pressure up 1 psi, because gass expands when it gets hot. so keep in mind, if you pumped your tires up to 30 in the morning, you are probably running with 34-35 on the road. for the track racers allways bleed the tires down to the high 20's, because the tires get real hot, and the pressure goes up to like 36 psi. He was right about lowpro tires messing up the rim, if your wheel goes into a pot hole, it can compensate (damage) the rim, because there is not that much rubber protecting the rim, also you can hit the rim on a curb(ive done it like 5 times) By tire man i assume he worked with tires, either replaced them or sold them, although i have no idea why he gave wrong info??????:confused: any one who know any thing about tires should know not ever bring the tires up to max pressure:confused:
 
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thanks for clearing some things up im not that good in spelling lol
profile tires bends or bracks the rims if ya hit potholes. i have seen too many bent rims and they go out of balance not only potholes but also speed bumps and many other things they run over profile tires tends to get hot when the tires get linda low and burn up on the inside diffrent tires have soft or hard rubber so the softer the tire on a profile tire max psi but if the tire is harder rubber 5 psi lower wont hurt the reason why a lower psi is for a softer ride
 
jimbo said:
thanks for clearing some things up im not that good in spelling lol
profile tires bends or bracks the rims if ya hit potholes. i have seen too many bent rims and they go out of balance not only potholes but also speed bumps and many other things they run over profile tires tends to get hot when the tires get linda low and burn up on the inside diffrent tires have soft or hard rubber so the softer the tire on a profile tire max psi but if the tire is harder rubber 5 psi lower wont hurt the reason why a lower psi is for a softer ride
I have never, never heard that, ever. My car came stock with lowprofile tires, and on the inside of the door it recomends 35 F and 32 R(they do that to make the car under steer) You are right about some tires being composed of hard or soft rubbers, generaly softer tires have better traction, harder tires have less trction but they last longer. So, i have no idea where you heard about tire inflation pressure from but, I am not trying to bash on you, no hard fellings.:) I am going to try to help, So first of all, who told you to fill up lowprofile tires to the max pressure on the side walls?
 
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your right about increase in temprature brings the internal pressure up im speaking only about profile tires i dont treat every tire the same on the door panel it tells you what psi for the size tire but then the tires have a diffrent psi it all depends on the rubber how soft it is and season it is summer time is hard on the tires winter time pressure decreases so it all depend and yes car racer blled the tired for better traction
 
I have toyo proxes 245/40-R19 on my Audi now! The work okey. Had pirelli p-zero on my Audi S6, and they was great!! :D
 
jimbo said:
your right about increase in temprature brings the internal pressure up im speaking only about profile tires i dont treat every tire the same on the door panel it tells you what psi for the size tire but then the tires have a diffrent psi it all depends on the rubber how soft it is and season it is summer time is hard on the tires winter time pressure decreases so it all depend and yes car racer blled the tired for better traction

winter time yes, its colder so the pressure decreases, so you put more air in, but you still want the tires at the Manufactures recomended pressures. I dont inflate my tires based only on the car companys recomendation, especialy if you dont have stock tires. The maker of the tires is really who you want to talk to. now, i have never heard of any regular tires that should be kept at there max pressure. I am triying to understand. you say that "your right about increase in temprature brings the internal pressure up im speaking only about profile tires" a raise in temp still raises the pressure, even in low profile tires.
 
yeah raise in temp still raises the pressure, even in low profile tires. but the reason i do that in profile tires is because of some tires are softer than others and have had many people hiting bumps and thing and it blows air pressure out from the edge of the rims and beads and trying to keep from having the rims get bent so easy like i said higher tread wear tires will give you longer life in mileage so it all depends what you want some tires have harder rubber and have a very low psi wont hurt the tire softer rubber will heat up and spoil the tire every company that makes tires are made from diffrent kinds of rubber you can look at 50 brands at the same size tire and some are wider some are taller just a bit im not telling you that higher psi is safe or lower psi is safe you can do what ever you wantif the custmer wants less psi i will do what he wants but then if he has a problem cause by air pressure then its out of my hands that is what he wanted some times higher psi will make the tire shake i have seen people that dont know a crap about tires and have like 65 to 90 psi and thinks the tire needs balance or a frontend aligment
 
I have never heard of anyone doing that, even for the softest rubber tires. The only time i have heard of filling up a tire close to its max is in a spare tire.
 
Air Pressure
The main function of a tire is to carry the load of the car. Therefore, it is vital that correct air pressure is maintained. Over-inflation will cause rapid and irregular wear.
Under-inflation will damage the tire structure leading to possible accidents.
Improper air pressure will not allow the tire to function as it was designed. For best performance, maintain the air pressure recommended by the vehicle manufacturer and/or the tire manufacturer.

i dont Over-inflation i have worked on so many tires and have learned of some problems that people have and try my best to make them happy heres a site ya might want to look into lot times can get tires cheaper than most tire stores i have bought from them and was cheaper than some wholesalers here in my area google search for Tires Easy.
 
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Thejoyofdriving said:
If you guys are interested, you can learn about the tires on my car here Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Tell me what you guys think!

I have that tiers on a Audi A3, 225/45-R17. And I like them! Nice for some joy riding :cheers:
 
I found Thetirerack.com to be a good site for comparison shopping. They have evaluations by both customers and their tech staff and put the results in easy-to-understand language. The prices are good and they will supply local installers (which are also rated by the customers). I replaced my Vette tires with products at The Tire Rack. Bought Kumho's which were rated pretty high, not the highest, but the best for the money. The OEM Badyears made so much noise, I couldn't hear my radio or any conversation in the cockpit. The Kumho's are a vast improvement. The jury is still out on treadware, but dry pavement traction is great (not so great on wet, though). They evaluate tires by customers' car make, so you will find a lot of Beemers' comments there. Check it out if you haven't already.
 
BFG G-Force Sport or KDW2. The G-Forces will last mmuch longer though. I love both and will never run another tire, except to maybe try the General Exclaims.
 
I absolutely love my Michelins, those tires last forever!!!
 
I got lost reading some of this. I managed a couple of districts of automotive repair/tire stores for many years. I've sold/repaired/warranted more tires than I can even imagine. 21 stores in all, $40,000,000 in retail sales annually . There is a lot of myth surrounding performance tires. One of the most damaging pieces of information out there is to run inflation pressures at the rating on the sidewall of the tire. This is a maximum inflation rating only. Any given tire might find itself on a half dozen different vehicle applications. That said these vehicles all have different GVW and different handling applications. The best place to start when determining the correct inflation for your vehicle is the door placard. The vehicle manufacturer knows how many pounds you should be riding on and how the vehicle handles and brakes accordingly, the tire manufacturer doesn't have a clue where his tire will end up. A couple of pounds either side of the number listed on the door placard is all the average owner will ever need. An example where an owner can get into trouble is a truck tire. Some sizes are the same whether on a 1/2 ton or a 1 ton truck. The overall weight of these vehicles may 1500 lbs. different. You don't want to run the maximum inflation pressure on the 1/2 ton on the other hand you just might want to on a fully loaded 1 ton.

Much of the wisdom here goes out the window when you start talking about plus sizing tire combinations and it truly becomes a matter of trial and error. If you ever watch a quick lube store go through its 10,000 point check, you'll see the $7/hr technician filling your tires to the maximum inflation capacity listed on the tire. This will give you a hard ride and wear the centers of the tire out prematurely. Another thing to take into consideration is the tread wear rating. Years ago (70's) when companies got together to come up with a tread wear rating system they picked a tire. At the time the tire was a Uniroyal Tiger Paw. Not necessarily the best or worst tire of its time. It did however give a product that temperature, tread wear and traction ratings could be based off. At the time this tire was issued a tread wear rating of 100. The tire used for this standard has undoubtedly changed though I don't know what that tire is today. As better tires were constructed they were found to have twice the tread life of the Tiger Paw and therefore were issued a number by their manufacturer of 200 and so on. Bias ly belted tires of the 1970's might only live 12 -15 thousand miles. We have some tires today that may see 80,000 miles. Obviously not performance tires, some of these still only live 12-15 thousand miles but you won't see a tread wear rating of 100 on them.

The point I make with this diatribe is simply that when it comes to tread wear ratings the comparative value is only valid within a manufacturers given line. There is no one out there that is saying this Michelin is a 500 and this BFG is a 300 and then fining a company when it's tire doesn't meet the standard. Trust me the the DOT's not doing it. Comparing the tread wear ratings with in a manufacturers line can be helpful but not from manufacturer to manufacturer. Comparing brand A's 300 to brand Z's 300 just isn't comparing apples to apples. As far as rim damage goes, low profile tires do have less sidewall to absorb impact. That said if the tire and wheel combination is properly chosen it usually isn't a problem. As far as which tires I like, I can find a Michelin to meet most any of my automotive needs and like BFG for both truck tires and street drag radials. Well I've rambled long enough.
 
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