TIRE TALK!, What brand and model of tires do you guys like, and why?

Yokohama S-Drive 255/35-18, works OK, but i was suppose to have the Advan tires, but the tireshop messed up with wrong rims and wrong tires, and i didnt want to wait another 2 weeks for replacements. Anyway the tires dont last "that" long, so ill get others next year or the year after (toyo, advan or cont3.

Running pretty high psi.
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
Hi guys, My rear tires on my Bimmer are worn so i am throwing out the conti's 225/45 which have a traction rating of A, Temp A, and tread wear 280, and i am going to buy the same tires that i have on my front, some Good year Eagle F1's max summer performance, Wich are also 225/45 but they have a traction rating of AA, temp of A, and also tread wear 280. So i am going to be runing Eagle F1's on all 4 cornersIm the MAN:awesome::righton:. I usually keep my front psi around 34 (cold) and back like 31 (cold), i do this to help with the under steer. I was wondering what type of tires do you guys use and what Psi do you guys use for performace driving in the F/R(street, not track).
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For my girlfriend's BMW ('04 325 Ci) I got Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 225/45/ZR17. With a sport package car already feels glued to the road, and with these tires it feels super-glued. Best of all you are getting summer performance in all season tire. I trully love these tires. I have the same on my '05 Acura RL - 245/50/ZR17. Threadwear is 400, Traction AA, temperature A. Here is Pilot Sport A/S.

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On my daily driver ('99 Infiniti I30) I also have Z rated tires, but not Michelin.
I decided not to spend $800 on tires for this car, only spent $400 on Kumho Ecsta ASX.

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the michellin ps2 are great tires...very pricey but you will be glued to the road...bridegestone potenzas that came stock on my 350z were good...but had horrible wet traction and had a lot of road chatter...only lasted about 20k miles....the bfg kdw2's look cool (as we all know that matters :) ) and they last a long time 24k on them and they still have a bunch of tread left.....but are a little noisey as they wear down...but definitely very grippy and have great wet traction for a performance tire...kuhmos perfomance tires are inexpensive and their only real downside is the sidewalls are very weak and you can feel it when cornering...i personally liked my ps2's the most..just not their price...as far as overall value to performance...i like my bfg's
 
I just got my tires changed, i sat there and watched, man was it scary. First the guy there got into my car(i hate when people i dont know drive my car) and he parked it in the work area. then he lifted my car up :eek:that was also scary, it went like 6 feet up.After that one of the guys started to take off my tires, but they wouldnt seem to come off, so he started to beat on my tires with a hammer :eek:. after he went over to a machine and started to take off the tire. mean while the other guy was beating on my other tire to get it off. so one of the guys started to put the new rubber on my rim, but he could not seem to get it on, finally he did, but then the tire was not seated right, so he pumped the tire full of air to try to pop it in to shape, that didnt work, so he did some other stuff, and pumped it full of air again, this time it made a big pop sound, so now there were two guys standing and looking at the tire like there was something wrong, eventually one tire was on my car, one of the guys walked over with a spray bottle and started to spray my tires down, i quickly walked over to see what he was doing, but it was too late, my tires were covered in tire shine, they use this stuff called blue luster. mean while the other guy was strugling with my other tire, it was leaking air because it was not seated properly, so one of the guys walks over and starts to spray the leaky tire with this blue luster stuff to see where the air is coming from. they fix that up, then he took a look at the tires and said, "how do you turn?" i said "fast and hard" then he said that explains the irregular tire wear, he told me that since there are more right turns than lefts the right is a bit worn, and i fork over the 400 bucks and got in my car, then he told me i can come back any time for a free rotation, cool :). as soon as i goosed the gas the tires started to spin, haha, it was cool, it took a little while for the rear tires to break in a bit. Now i want to hit some free way on ramps and see what these puppys can do!!!!!!!
 
I was gonna suggest Pirelli PZero Nero M+S tires if you need a well performing all-season tire that's great in all conditions, including light snow. I was able to drive my mustang in the light snow and heavy slush with confidence.
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
400 tread wear, hum, how many miles do they go for?
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Pilot Sport A/S are under "best" category, meaning you should get over 40k miles on threadwear 400, where Kumho were under better category, therefore should average 33-35k miles on threadwear 420.
Again, it all depends on your driving habits.
 
I'm riding on Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s, 245/35x19 front and 275/35x19 rear on a 05 Inf. G35 cpe.. These tires are surprisingly comfortable on all but the worst roads, and they handle noticeably better then the Michelin Pilot Sport tires that came on the car. The handling has been raised to a much higher level since the change to the PS2s. To early to comment on tread wear in my case. Pricey yes, but to me worth every penny.
 
Ive had nice rides with Toyo, Nitto, Michellin and Yokohamas. Had a set of Michellin XGT-Z's that I had to replace at 4000 miles, ouch ! I am currently running Goodyears as come as OEM on most GM products.
 
GearHead_1 said:
I got lost reading some of this. I managed a couple of districts of automotive repair/tire stores for many years. I've sold/repaired/warranted more tires than I can even imagine. 21 stores in all, $40,000,000 in retail sales annually . There is a lot of myth surrounding performance tires. One of the most damaging pieces of information out there is to run inflation pressures at the rating on the sidewall of the tire. This is a maximum inflation rating only. Any given tire might find itself on a half dozen different vehicle applications. That said these vehicles all have different GVW and different handling applications. The best place to start when determining the correct inflation for your vehicle is the door placard. The vehicle manufacturer knows how many pounds you should be riding on and how the vehicle handles and brakes accordingly, the tire manufacturer doesn't have a clue where his tire will end up. A couple of pounds either side of the number listed on the door placard is all the average owner will ever need. An example where an owner can get into trouble is a truck tire. Some sizes are the same whether on a 1/2 ton or a 1 ton truck. The overall weight of these vehicles may 1500 lbs. different. You don't want to run the maximum inflation pressure on the 1/2 ton on the other hand you just might want to on a fully loaded 1 ton.

Much of the wisdom here goes out the window when you start talking about plus sizing tire combinations and it truly becomes a matter of trial and error. If you ever watch a quick lube store go through its 10,000 point check, you'll see the $7/hr technician filling your tires to the maximum inflation capacity listed on the tire. This will give you a hard ride and wear the centers of the tire out prematurely. Another thing to take into consideration is the tread wear rating. Years ago (70's) when companies got together to come up with a tread wear rating system they picked a tire. At the time the tire was a Uniroyal Tiger Paw. Not necessarily the best or worst tire of its time. It did however give a product that temperature, tread wear and traction ratings could be based off. At the time this tire was issued a tread wear rating of 100. The tire used for this standard has undoubtedly changed though I don't know what that tire is today. As better tires were constructed they were found to have twice the tread life of the Tiger Paw and therefore were issued a number by their manufacturer of 200 and so on. Bias ly belted tires of the 1970's might only live 12 -15 thousand miles. We have some tires today that may see 80,000 miles. Obviously not performance tires, some of these still only live 12-15 thousand miles but you won't see a tread wear rating of 100 on them.

The point I make with this diatribe is simply that when it comes to tread wear ratings the comparative value is only valid within a manufacturers given line. There is no one out there that is saying this Michelin is a 500 and this BFG is a 300 and then fining a company when it's tire doesn't meet the standard. Trust me the the DOT's not doing it. Comparing the tread wear ratings with in a manufacturers line can be helpful but not from manufacturer to manufacturer. Comparing brand A's 300 to brand Z's 300 just isn't comparing apples to apples. As far as rim damage goes, low profile tires do have less sidewall to absorb impact. That said if the tire and wheel combination is properly chosen it usually isn't a problem. As far as which tires I like, I can find a Michelin to meet most any of my automotive needs and like BFG for both truck tires and street drag radials. Well I've rambled long enough.
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Well said! :cheers:
 
I bought my Jag used and it came with Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 tires. I replaced them recently with Kuhmo Ecsta ASX tires. The sales guy scoffed at me, he said "well, if you want to go with an entry level tires the Kuhmo's are okay"."

I was looking at getting the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires, but the Kuhmo's were much less expensive. So far I'm very happy with my choice. I recently drove to Austin and back on I-35. I experienced many types of road conditions: smooth, rough, dry, light rain, and heavy downpour. The Kumho's handled well in all conditions and have less road noise than the Michelin's I replaced. For the price difference these are really good tires.
 
I completely agree with Reddwarf! I put Kuhmo Ecsta ASX tires on my old Acura Legend because it was old and I just wanted to slap on some decent "sport touring" tires but I was completely impressed with their performance in the Wet, Dry and they are quiet!!! Plus I hate Michelin's!!! I've bought 4 new Honda's the last 7 years and the only thing I hate about new Honda's is that many of them come with Michelin's. And to steal a line from Killr they install a free bubble in the sidewall in every one of them... I also love Yokohama's for more performance
 
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