Tires still brown after scrubbing...

andyo said:
wesely's bleach white $4.00 a bottle use on a dry tire and watch the mud (brown) come off. i buy a few every time i need some.
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:iagree:I have been using this product for over 40yrs and never had a problem. Easy to find and CHEAP. :xyxthumbs:
 
Wesley's Bleach White is good stuff! I'll be trying the PEARL out this weekend ;)
 
I had this problem, so try Eagle One A to Z all wheel and tire cleaner, but becareful and make sure you spray it all off, the tire and wheels with the hose. it is very powerful stuff and it will destoy your wheels. Then use meguiars endurance high gloss shine.
 
Wesley's Blech White. Someone mentioned in another thread that they did not like the "old technology", but this stuff has been around forever, and it works great.

However, brown tires are brown tires, even with this stuff. I have had this problem with more than one tire and it does seem to depend on the tire. UV light exposure is a big problem that seems to cause this, and no tire dressing will cure this problem. You may be able to temporarily color the brown black, but eventually it turns brown again.
 
westley's at $4 a bottle ?c I can get locally at f.f on sale for $5 a gallon . 7 something reg price .
 
Slate G8 GT said:
Go to wally world and pick you up some bleche white. I was using APC and even OPC straight on some nasty tires and having to scrub them 4 or 5 times to get them looking decent, someone suggested bleche white so I picked some up and haven't came across a tire that took more than using it twice on to get 'em clean. It works better if you spray it on a dry tire.
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DLB said:
This. I haven't found anything that can touch Bleche-White - not even straight Optimum Power Clean. :)

DLB
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You folks are on the ball. I've been using Westley's Bleche-White for 25 years or more.

Dry tires are critical.

If you suspect heavy browning of a tire first buy Westley's. Second, apply it liberally to a browed tire. You may clean once, you may clean twice, but I've never went back a third time...no need to.

I always sprayed all four tires. Sometimes the product will dry on the first tire I sprayed before I get a chance to scrub it. No problem! Just mist with enough water, and only enough water to re-wet the tire and start scrubbing, mist lightly again, scrub some more. It really shouldn't take much effort in scrubbing.

I finally got smart and quit putting tire shine junk on my tires and simply kept them clean and black.

That said, I haven't tried any of the new tire and trim products, but thanks to a few good folks around here at AG I was told about Ultima products. I just recieved today my first order from AG and in the box was none other than Ultima Tire and Trim Guard Plus, or UTTG.

I actually can't wait to try a new technology product on a tire. I can also say that if I get browning with it on tires, it will no longer be used for such and I'll go back to just keeping them clean with Westley's.
 
I use a product called Citra-Plus for this. When you spray it on the tire you can see it begin to lift the brown off immediately. I spray it on a dry tire hitting all 4 tires and then blast the tire clean with a pressure washer and I rarely need to brush the tire to remove the browning. This stuff removes brake dust from the wheels very effectively as well without agitating. Some really tough cases where the tire is really brown I have had to mechanically agitate with a brush but most tires it works well. Just google Citra-Plus to find it. I buy it by the case or the 5 gallon container.
 
just for what it's worth

I rarely put dressing on my tires, and I rarely have to scrub them to keep them black.
I have found it is more work to keep them looking nice with dressings applied. I am a fan of westley's bleeche white also. It is a great product along with purple power citrus cleaner on the rubber and rims.
I only add a light dressing if I take the truck out to a show.
also I do not want to degrade the natural properties of the rubber tire
 
Thanks for all of the replies guys. For the moment, I am going to try and use what I have on hand to see if it will work (PB's APC at 1:1). I think I also have some Meg's Citri-Gel still laying around in the garage somewhere that I might also try.

What I have been doing up until now works well on my tires, just not so good on the wife's this time around. If neither the stronger dilution of PB's or Meg's work, then I might look into the Westley's since I can get it easily locally. Just trying to somewhat keep the product arsenal down cuz I have a lot of 1/2 empty bottles in the garage....

Thanks,
Neil
 
rockford33 said:
Just trying to somewhat keep the product arsenal down cuz I have a lot of 1/2 empty bottles in the garage....l
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Yeah, use up the stuff you have before your shelves look like mine...you might even try that Pb's APC full strength, just wet the wheels with water first in case you get any overspray on them while you are doing the tires.
 
So I was at the auto store over the weekend and looked for Westley's Bleche White. I guess Black Magic bought them out because that is the only Bleche White that I found.

Ayway, after reading all of the warnings on the back I decided not to try it out. The fact that you shouldn't get it on paint, certain rims, etc. kinda put me off. Not that I just spray cleaner all over the place when I clean the tires, but I prefer something that I can spray on the tires and rims without concern of possibly ruining the rims. I have read that some people with chrome wheels have no problems, but with my clearcoated and painted rims I would prefer to err on the side of caution with a cleaner.

I did start to try and use my PB's APC 2:1 (or 1:1, I forget...) on the wife's tires but I hadn't even finished one tire yesterday before the rain started coming down for the next few hours.... Maybe this weekend I can try again. I might get some ARO to try, just want to be sure it is also safe for wheels.

-Neil
 
I have used Bleche White on both clear coated rims and painted wheels. Never had any damage to the finish. For more than 25 years. They have to put a proviso on the back to avoid liability for careless use of the product. If you know how to use a garden hose, this stuff is completely safe.

You will damage the rubber by the time you have it on there long enough to penetrate paint on a wheel.

However, you can use a number of common household products to clean the rubber and they won't damage paint, but you still have to make sure you rinse any painted surfaces thoroughly, just as you would with Bleche White. The problem is that the strong cleaners are not good if not rinsed completely from painted surfaces.
 
rockford33 said:
So I was at the auto store over the weekend and looked for Westley's Bleche White. I guess Black Magic bought them out because that is the only Bleche White that I found.

Ayway, after reading all of the warnings on the back I decided not to try it out. The fact that you shouldn't get it on paint, certain rims, etc. kinda put me off. Not that I just spray cleaner all over the place when I clean the tires, but I prefer something that I can spray on the tires and rims without concern of possibly ruining the rims. I have read that some people with chrome wheels have no problems, but with my clearcoated and painted rims I would prefer to err on the side of caution with a cleaner.

I did start to try and use my PB's APC 2:1 (or 1:1, I forget...) on the wife's tires but I hadn't even finished one tire yesterday before the rain started coming down for the next few hours.... Maybe this weekend I can try again. I might get some ARO to try, just want to be sure it is also safe for wheels.

-Neil
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Yes, safe for wheels. Just don't let it dry. Also does seem to be rough on the paint of hubcaps since they are much different than normal car paint and surfaces. Rims are fine though.
 
I like Dave's idea of using your favorite apc then powerwashing. It seems powerwashing alone could help. In conjunction with a good cleaner such as the bleche-white, ARO, or the cleaner Dave mentioned, the addition of a powerwasher could just take all the work out of it completely.

I like that idea Dave.
 
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