To Glaze or To Compound year after year

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My friend's black Camry's swirls were removed this past June by polishing.
The swirls are back. Yes, I didn't educate him how to maitaine his finish, but he wouldn't wash his own car anyway, he's older.
So, I thought should I apply a glaze to hide his swirls instead of polishing them out? Seems silliy to coumpond a car every year. Sooner, or later, there will be no CC to polish.
Say, Poorboy's Blackhole, then topped with a sealant should hide the swirls for 6 month or so?
How do you all feel about what I wrote?Feed back please
 
Never used PB Blackhole, used CG Blacklight in same situation. Or customers like that with black cars, I would put 2 coats on then top with wax or sealant. In essence, youre headed in the right direction.
 
Sounds like a good plan to me. Black Hole is a great product that produces great results. What were you thinking to use for LSP?
 
fly07sti said:
Sounds like a good plan to me. Black Hole is a great product that produces great results. What were you thinking to use for LSP?
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:iagree:I would use a sealant. He will mess it up anyways at the car wash. Sealant will last longer than Wax IMO
 
expdetailing said:
My friend's black Camry's swirls were removed this past June by polishing.
The swirls are back.

So, I thought should I apply a glaze to hide his swirls instead of polishing them out? Seems silliy to coumpond a car every year.

Sooner, or later, there will be no CC to polish.

How do you all feel about what I wrote?Feed back please
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IMO:
•There can be a big difference between compounding and polishing CC.

•If you removed the swirls back in June by polishing...
-Then surely the wash-induced swirls since then can be removed with a polish containing very fine abrasives.
-This method, if performed only when absolutely necessary, should ensure that this vehicle will have CC for its intended life cycle.

RE: Glazes
•Keep in mind that unless glazes are:
"pure polishes"---having no abrasives...
they will remove, at the very least, a minutia of CC.


Bob
 
If he is too lazy to properly wash it....why do you think he would be willing to apply a glaze every 2-4 weeks?
 
allenk4 said:
If he is too lazy to properly wash it....why do you think he would be willing to apply a glaze every 2-4 weeks?
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Kyle, do you think powerlock topped w/915 will only yield only 2-4 weeks protection over black hole?
 
When I saw his car all swirled-up, I thought it's no wonder dealers just glaze vehicles. Not only is it cheaper and faster, it's also makes sense. Why correct a vehicle when it's just going to go to the swirl-o-matic?
 
This is why I like a product that can do both. I used a lot of Ultimate Polish last summer. Light correction, filling abilities... It was the right compromise for many situations.
 
fly07sti said:
Kyle, do you think powerlock topped w/915 will only yield only 2-4 weeks protection over black hole?
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No, that combo should last much longer than glaze alone

Topping a glaze with a sealant is IMO a better option to fill and protect

Todd Cooperider has endorsed topping CG EZ Glaze with sealant
 
Why not use one of the newer AIO's to make life easy? Might be a great time to try one if you haven't already.
 
Ebg18t said:
Why not use one of the newer AIO's to make life easy? Might be a great time to try one if you haven't already.
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I suppose the answer is because I think of AOI this way: If they were designed for multiple purposes, then they can't be really good at any of them. I really like AIO for door jambs, but I'm not aware that they have any fillers or substantial correcting ability (only enough to take a season's worth of swirls away, and no more than) outside of just chemical decontamination.
Are there any AOI with fillers?
 
allenk4 said:
No, that combo should last much longer than glaze alone

Topping a glaze with a sealant is IMO a better option to fill and protect

Todd Cooperider has endorsed topping CG EZ Glaze with sealant
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Alrite. I think that combo should work good for the OP. I have used EZ glaze, hybrid black light, and black hole and I think BH fills the most. Topping it with powerlock then 915 should be more than enough to keep it looking pretty good until late spring or possibly summer.
 
expdetailing said:
I suppose the answer is because I think of AOI this way: If they were designed for multiple purposes, then they can't be really good at any of them. I really like AIO for door jambs, but I'm not aware that they have any fillers or substantial correcting ability (only enough to take a season's worth of swirls away, and no more than) outside of just chemical decontamination.

Are there any AOI with fillers?
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Optimum GPS. Glaze polish seal

Never used it so can't really comment much on it.
 
Since it seems to me you don't want to go too overboard...
Here's a real simple solution:

-Start off with this glaze:
Meguiars 305 Ultra Finishing Durable Glaze

-Then apply either one of these (essentially the same) Spray Waxes:
Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax, spray wax, synthetic spray wax, quick wax, meguiars quick spray wax, paint protectant, liquid wax, meguires, meguiars car

Meguiars Synthetic X-press Spray Wax, X-press car wax, Meguiars X-press spray liquid wax, D156

Your friend can then follow up every month or so
with the easily obtained (OTC) UQW.


Bob
 
expdetailing said:
. Yes, I didn't educate him how to maitaine his finish, but he wouldn't wash his own car anyway, he's older.
?Feed back please
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OP states that the owner is NOT washing his own car

Therefore, I suggest a combo that will last without the need for any maintenance (spray wax)

Black Hole topped w/ a Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant should give you six months
 
I'm blown away by the review I saw on Optimum Glaze Polish & Seal, AND that Meg's has a 305. 305 is a brilliant idea.
I don't know if Optm GP&S has any longevity though. The reviewer wrote that he removed 3000 grit marks with it. That's impressive. He had to make at least two passes with it.
I was looking for magic in a bottle; something wowa with next to zero longevity, and thought I might be able to give it life for 2 months, or so, with a quality sealant.
 
allenk4 said:
OP states that the owner is NOT washing his own car

Therefore, I suggest a combo that will last without the need for any maintenance (spray wax)

Black Hole topped w/ a Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant should give you six months
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I, for one, didn't mention anything about the OP's friend washing his own car.

It wouldn't bother me one iota if he doesn't want
to use a Spray Wax once every month or so.

Black Hole "topped" with WDGPS:
This combo won't stand a chance of lasting over the next three months, or so, of the Winter season in Cleveland, Ohio...especially when combined with, more than likely: tunnel car washes.

I'll conclude by asking:
If the OP can't personally find a way to get his friend to take better care of his vehicle, how slim of a chance have we?


Bob
 
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