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I don't know why people fight over stuff like this. If you want to use something that costs more, use it. If you're supposed to use a primer before a coating of some kind, then use it, or if you want to experiment and not use the primer do so.

Well put.

Cosmic can be used without Primer, it will just not form 9H pencil hardness.
 
Not fused Titanium/Aluminum abrasives. Just because 'many manufacturers' are going to a certain abrasive type doesn't really mean much. As you will find with all of the polishangel polishes, the working time, ease of use & resulting gloss is due to unique manufacturing, using higher quality & higher cost ingredients than 'many manufacturers'

Are they the best polishes in the world? That's up to personally preference. Though I have seen no negative feedback from people who use them instead of trying to talk them down without hands on experience.

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If not fused...then are you sure that Titanium-oxide is being used as an abrasive?

And I expect someone to not imply that a person has no hands on experience, without having personal knowledge of that person's experience, or not.

BTW:
I'm a protagonist of Mr. Cooperider,
and of his Business/Business model.

:)

Bob
 
If not fused...then are you sure that Titanium-oxide is being used as an abrasive?

And I expect someone to not imply that a person has no hands on experience, without having personal knowledge of that person's experience, or not.

BTW:
I'm a protagonist of Mr. Cooperider,
and of his Business/Business model.

:)

Bob

There are an abundance of different forms of TiO2 as I am sure you know. Many different types/purities/particle sizes that determine the use of the product, just like SiO

This has gone way off the original intended topic of someone wanting to know of personal experience with a certain product and not what makes up another.
 
I think this post has gotten off topic I would really like to know what mr Phillips thinks about these two coatings
 
Seeing as AG does not carry these coatings I doubt Mike is gonna have much input on either.
 
I have to admit that I have a professional interest in all these new products. The thing I have to note is that I have never seen any really technical discussions. Yet, there are talks about how to use the products, but no one giving the slightest indication about the chemistry. Of course this could be down to the desire not to give the game away but this is rarely a valid argument because it is so very likely that the actives would need identified on a (required) safety data sheet. The other possibility which jumps to mind is one which has occurred more generically. Why is not one talking science about these products? As a scientist who works in the area, I do. Scientists are enthusiastic bunch and the truth is that most of the science of detailing products is well known to anyone who would care to do their homework - giving the game away is just really not a concern. So I am inclined to think that there are actually very very few scientists posting in this area.

Since I mentioned it, has anyone got an MSDS for these new products? As noted, the supplier is obligated to provide these documents, it is not something they can decline (and if they do, you tell your Health & Safety authority and it won't be long before they either change tune or stop selling the products!).
 
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