Too much content on your website?

jarred767

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Hey guys, I had a customer mention to me that my website looked nice and all, but that I should consider removing some content because it didn't look "clean enough." I've struggled with the concept of clean vs. content when creating it but never had a customer actually mention it before. My link is in my signature if you don't mind taking a look at the "balance" I've tried to come up with.

In your opinion, can you have too much content? I have kind of felt that as a customer, I want the content to be there so I can look through it if I want too, but is it better to leave a lot of it off, thus encouraging a potential customer to call or email for more info?

I'm interested to hear any thoughts you guys might have on this.
 
Can you have too much content? Yes !!
IMO. Unless the companies are paying you to advertise their product, omit.
I have found that customers do not care what was used. Only that it looks good. Also by advertising products, the customer can search your products and do it themselves, etc. It's a balancing act. Simply to say that you use the best products available to obtain professional results is great advertising. You want repeat and returning customer's which provide you with new customer's.
 
Here you go:

Don't Make Me Think, Revisited: A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability (3rd Edition) (Voices That Matter): Steve Krug: 9780321965516: Amazon.com: Books

This is a great book that gives you a solid understanding of designing a site.

No need for big techie skills, no jargon, or anything like that

I finished the book in an hour and 30 minutes.

Homepage:
- Remove the manufactures logo
- Remove the OC banner on the side
- Minimize your services offered to 5 options
- Remove the slider
- Improve your copy

Honestly, your site probably gets such a low amount of traffic that you don't need to spend a bunch of time on this

Buy the book, make your adjustments, and shabam.

Move on.
 
Wow... that site is a little bit of a mess. I wanted to click away rather quickly just due to the fact I wasn't sure where my attention was supposed to be focused.

In your case, I don't think having too much content is the issue - it is the way that the content is presented that is the problem. With a better design that utilizes a more consistent display of information I don't think you'd have any complaints. The way your site is right now, with every page click I have to figure out where to look first or where to look to get the relevant information.
 
Jarred, I just finished looking at your site, and actually read what you have posted.
My first impression was that your page where you list the levels of details, i.e. 1, 1.5, 2 etc. was listed nicely, and priced extremely fair.
Then, I looked at the page where that burgundy car is showing its shiny motor, and I thought "which packages already cover these extra/side services?"
Then I moved on to your intro/who you are/welcome page, and thought you seem like a pleasant gentleman to take my car to if I am looking for your service.
Personally, I like the pricing menu. It's concise and priced in a non-threatening manner. I also think that your photography skills worked well to your advantage. I actually thought you were using stock photographs by professionals. Lastly, I like the black theme/background with the chosen photographs that provide just enough bold, but soft colors to stand-out against the background making for an easy yet impressive viewing experience.
Well done.
 
I think content is important and as long as its organized cleanly and not distracting you can have as much as you want. Your home page has a lot going on and I think its content overload.
 
At first look at the home page I Didn't no where to start seems a bit much IMO. I thinks a few key product logos are ok. I have a few... the main logos that everybody knows is Meguairs. I have had customers mention that they noticed I used Meguairs and thats why the contacted me.
 
Jarred.... I agree with Jeremy here. You have to keep the eye focused, and that's not happening. The right side of your home page seems like you are trying to think of everything possible and listed it. The slider I like, keep that updated every couple months or so (because that keeps you from having to get people to look at a portfolio page). Sure... you can have a portfolio page if you like, but THAT is not what they are there to see. They want to see specific, easy to understand, easy to price, easy to pay for packages that THEY THINK THEY NEED. ;)

Also, it's not that you have way too much content, just seems to be somewhat scattered, redundant and..... a bit unorganized. Looking at the basic wash price for instance, yet you can't get a few spritzes of spray wax and tire shine without paying another $20. I'll not let anything I touch leave without at least SOME sort of spray wax. (Remembering you can buy a gallon of Megs 156 and some generic tire shine not more than you're wanting for a single application.)


Everybody deserves some sort of 'wax' and some sort of 'tire shine', even if it only provides a few weeks of protection. Why? Because they can go to the local drive thru tunnel of swirls and if it's not sprayed on automatically, the guys with the dirty towels standing outside will spray it on. And yes.... they'll shine the tires on every car that leaves the lot.

Remember your customer is the one that can and WILL appreciate your services over and above what they can get for $25 (or likely less) at the local car wash.
If they like what YOU do, and they SEE it, and FEEL it on their vehicle(s), they keep coming back. :xyxthumbs:

Having a package that reads:
"We wash and dry your car, doing the best job in town, using 2-buckets, or using something else, depending on what we think works, and we clean your tires and wheels"
(PS: For shiny paint and shiny tires add $20.)

Then another that reads:
"This is our Deluxe Package. We do everything we did in the Semi-Deluxe but we add claying with a clay bar or another brand new rubber based paint decontamination process. This is the preferred way to remove deep, bonded contaminants from your paint leaving it slick and smooth as a baby's rear. Plus it makes sure your wax sticks better"
(PS: Adding wax you need to Move to the Uber-Deluxe.5 or look at page 2.)

Remembering of course that the Deluxe package doesn't include any "wax". For that you have to move back to the Semi-Deluxe package to make sure it's there. And if you want sealant, you need to click on another page.

Then a paragraph by itself saying:
"Includes a full detail of all hard surfaces (dashes, consoles, interior doors, cup holders, leather seats, etc.), full interior vacuum, spot cleaning of minor stains, minor dog hair removal, door jamb cleaning, and interior window cleaning."

So for one level you have to go to another and figure out what all is included. Then it still 'reads' like the interior isn't getting touched. Now YOU KNOW you do the interior, but it's not listed with ANY of your packages. If, that's a big IF the customer remembers that stray paragraph found by itself.... then they figured that out. If they didn't, it sounds like for $120 all you get is a wash, no wax, no tire shine and the interior doesn't get touched.

What I'm getting at is with some "levels" you say this one includes that one. Then with others it doesn't, and I guess (and so are your customers) that it is a new package all on it's own. Then the one above it says it includes the one below. (Yet one is in one place on the page and another is in a totally different place, making you go back and find it.)

If one package includes another..... then at the very least, those packages need to be listed one on top of the other.

I didn't read your entire site, honestly..... (and I'm not wanting to anger you) but it's a bit tiring. For instance, go to the "Additional Services" page and one would expect to find everything they want/need to know. Yet you ended up at the bottom linking to yet another page, "Waxes/Sealants/Coatings". Seems there are three services pages, the home page with packages, another one with "Services and Packages", then yet another one with "Additional Services". Then there are no less than three "Waxes/Sealants/Coatings", "Opti-Coat Pro" and "Terms and Products".

One word.... WHY?
Customers don't want or need all that.

What you could do is simplify the pricing on all your packages. Then have an "a la carte' menu for additional services/products/features.

Say you have your basic wash (which should include a spray wax) and if they wanted to pay additional.... then they could add a WOWO sealant for that $20. Or a WOWA, or whatever. Have standard 'tire shine' included in the basic packages then a "long lasting tire gel" or "tire coating" available on your 'a la carte' menu.

Perhaps something like this:
(There should be a footnote explaining the "*" means "starting at" or something along the lines of the final prices will be quoted upon inspection. Or something to that effect.)

Basic Wash & Wax
Compact Cars - $69.95*
Mid Size Cars - $79.95*
Trucks & SUV’s - $89.95*
Great option for new vehicles or those recently detailed!

- Snow foam pre-soak & snow foam washed
- Soft Hand Wash (2 bucket method)
- Wheel wells cleaned
- Wheels & Tires cleaned
- Light tar deposits addressed
- Forced air & hand dried
- Door jambs wiped
- Windows cleaned
- Wheel wells dressed
- Tires dressed with protectant (satin or gloss)
- Exterior trim wiped down with basic protectant (Premium upgrades available)
- Premium liquid wax applied
Estimated time: 3 hours*


For an interior package it could be similar to this:


Level 1 Interior
Compact Cars - $xxx
Mid Size Cars - $xxx
Trucks & SUV’s - $xxx
*Price subject to change based on overall condition of vehicle

- Entire interior is vacuumed and wiped down
- Cracks and crevices lightly brushed and cleaned
- Dash and other plastic/vinyl pieces are cleaned
- UV Protectant is applied after cleaning
- All windows are cleaned (Tint Safe Cleaner)
- Carpets and mats are shampooed and chemically cleaned
- All leather is cleaned and conditioned
- Fabric seats will receive same attention as carpet
- Door jambs washed and wiped
- Door hinges and locks lubed
Estimated time: 1~2 hours*

You see where descriptions like these gives them a quick, succinct idea of what you are going to do, where your time is going to be spent, and (most importantly) WHY they are paying your prices.

Photos are great, providing the copy is readable, and understandable. But having to move from the left column to the right, back to the left. That will turn off a perspective client. When you are describing your packages ALL of them need to be thoroughly laid out, in a well designed, easy to understand, (single side of the page) column. I'd not put them in a paragraph either. Use a bulleted list!

If a package moving up has more in it, then put that in it. But don't just say it adds this and this and this on top of what you got with the other package.

That's where it'll really help you to trim down the packages. Basic wash, no interior, boom bam done. Want an interior/exterior package? Then build one! Or you could have a basic interior and a complete interior. Remembering that most everybody HATES doing interiors, and they take a TON of time to do them right. You could have a basic wash that doesn't have any extras for those that just want something better than the local car wash does, but don't want to have a 8 hour process. Add to that a Level 1 interior and you have a full interior/exterior package.

Then have say NO MORE THAN 4 exterior packages, none that have interior included. But what you do, is add a quick vacuum, wipe the dash, and clean the windows. Tell the customer when they show up that you just 'threw that in', 'no charge' and it'll blow them away.

Then for those that REALLY want their interior done, have your basic, then your mac-daddy packages. One that just goes over everything, quick but thorough, yet gives them at least, if not more than they'll get elsewhere. Then have another package where you spend 4~5 hours and do EVERYTHING....... take Q-tips, brushes of all sizes, do the vents, under the seats, switches, plastic polish, do the leather, treat/protect/seal all the rubber, steam clean the jambs, you name it.

On those exterior packages, you can line item explain, with that bullet list exactly what they are paying for. You might list a product there, but that's really not needed. As long as the customer likes what you are doing they really don't care what you use. For those that want to know, you still have those little icons on your page showing the products. You REALLY don't want to have an entire page (or three) showing this product or that product, that's a waste of your time. Customer education is what I think you're after, and that's fine. But if they really want to know, YOU need to be the one telling them, answering their questions as they have them. Don't expect them to read your site and figure it out on their own.



On the product placement ideas.
If you are offering Optimum, say you are proudly offering Optimum products, or say "We are an authorized dealer of XYZ" and leave it at that. No need to go into each and every possible application of each and every product that you have access to. Too much verbiage there.

Put their (SMALL) logo(s) across the bottom of your product page and be done with it!

I would also suggest looking carefully at your copy, the grammar, spell checking, etc. For instance, look at this line: "of all painted surfaces using the the newest". See the double 'the'. ;)
 
It could be cleaned up so it is an easier read. Not necessarily how much info but how it is organized. Font, spacing, pics etc.

seems cluttered. Needs better flow.

Hope that makes sense. I could explain it much better in person.
 
Learn the fundamentals of web design and user interface design, then fix your site accordingly. Look at other great websites to get ideas from.
 
Learn the fundamentals of web design and user interface design, then fix your site accordingly. Look at other great websites to get ideas from.

:iagree: It should be easy to read, navigate and straight to the point. Most people only spend about 1-2 min on the website and if it's hard to read or navigate they will leave.
 
WOW!! Thank you so much for all the honest remarks everyone.:xyxthumbs: I had a feeling people would say what they did (that's why I felt like I needed to ask it), but I wasn't expecting the kind of truly helpful responses that you all gave. My appreciation for this forum and the people on it has increased once again.
Can you have too much content? Yes !!
IMO. Unless the companies are paying you to advertise their product, omit.
I have found that customers do not care what was used. Only that it looks good. Also by advertising products, the customer can search your products and do it themselves, etc. It's a balancing act. Simply to say that you use the best products available to obtain professional results is great advertising. You want repeat and returning customer's which provide you with new customer's.
That is good advice, I hadn't really thought of the whole thing about them doing the research and doing it themselves (although I doubt most of my customers would). I think taking some of the branding stuff off would probably help de-clutter things a bit.

Here you go:

Don't Make Me Think, Revisited: A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability (3rd Edition) (Voices That Matter): Steve Krug: 9780321965516: Amazon.com: Books

This is a great book that gives you a solid understanding of designing a site.

No need for big techie skills, no jargon, or anything like that

I finished the book in an hour and 30 minutes.

Homepage:
- Remove the manufactures logo
- Remove the OC banner on the side
- Minimize your services offered to 5 options
- Remove the slider
- Improve your copy

Honestly, your site probably gets such a low amount of traffic that you don't need to spend a bunch of time on this

Buy the book, make your adjustments, and shabam.

Move on.

Thanks for the recommendation on the book, I'll definitely look into that, although my list of books that need to be read is growing, and my time seems to be dwindling (and this is supposed to be my slow season):cry:

Thanks for the tips on the site, that will be helpful when I go to edit it down.

Wow... that site is a little bit of a mess. I wanted to click away rather quickly just due to the fact I wasn't sure where my attention was supposed to be focused.

In your case, I don't think having too much content is the issue - it is the way that the content is presented that is the problem. With a better design that utilizes a more consistent display of information I don't think you'd have any complaints. The way your site is right now, with every page click I have to figure out where to look first or where to look to get the relevant information.

Yeah, I'm trying to look at it a little more objectively now and I can definitely see what you mean. As I've added more services and options, I've simply added them to the site and it's gotten too overwhelming. I have a tough time editing down the content, but it sounds like some editing and reformatting will definitely be in my future.

Jarred, I just finished looking at your site, and actually read what you have posted.
My first impression was that your page where you list the levels of details, i.e. 1, 1.5, 2 etc. was listed nicely, and priced extremely fair.
Then, I looked at the page where that burgundy car is showing its shiny motor, and I thought "which packages already cover these extra/side services?"
Then I moved on to your intro/who you are/welcome page, and thought you seem like a pleasant gentleman to take my car to if I am looking for your service.
Personally, I like the pricing menu. It's concise and priced in a non-threatening manner. I also think that your photography skills worked well to your advantage. I actually thought you were using stock photographs by professionals. Lastly, I like the black theme/background with the chosen photographs that provide just enough bold, but soft colors to stand-out against the background making for an easy yet impressive viewing experience.
Well done.
Thanks for the positive comments; I really appreciate it. The points that you mentioned are almost all things that I feel like I want to stay true to when I do some editing and reformatting. And thanks for the comments on the pictures. To be brutally honest, almost every picture on the site was taken with my iPhone and then just had simple editing done to soften the edges and make them a little more enjoyable to look at it. I appreciate you taking the time to look over the site and give your feedback.

I think content is important and as long as its organized cleanly and not distracting you can have as much as you want. Your home page has a lot going on and I think its content overload.

Thanks for the comments and taking the time to look things over. After reading everyone's thoughts and trying to now look at the site more objectively, the homepage is looking more and more like a disaster every time I open it: doh: It will be the first to get an overhaul.

On a side note, I checked out your site and really like the clean layout of it. I noticed that you are using SquareSpace and was curious on your thoughts of their product. I'm currently using GoDaddy, but am not very satisfied as they have essentially screwed my mobile page up so bad that I no longer even have a mobile version of the site. SquareSpace looks like a great option, but I'd love your first-hand thoughts with doing a detailing site through them.

At first look at the home page I Didn't no where to start seems a bit much IMO. I thinks a few key product logos are ok. I have a few... the main logos that everybody knows is Meguairs. I have had customers mention that they noticed I used Meguairs and thats why the contacted me.
Thanks for taking the time to look it over and share your opinions, it's really appreciated. I'm gaining a strong sense that my home page needs help (in the form of the "delete content block") I'll be doing some editing soon. Thanks again!

Yeah it is a little overwhelming ill admit. Then again, I dont know if mine is much better after looking at yours. No Limits Mobile Detailing - Renos Best Mobile Auto Detailing
Your site looks pretty good. I'm not sure if it's because I'm a little down on mine right now or what, but I don't really feel like yours is anywhere near as cluttered and overwhelming as mine currently is. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts.

It could be cleaned up so it is an easier read. Not necessarily how much info but how it is organized. Font, spacing, pics etc.

seems cluttered. Needs better flow.

Hope that makes sense. I could explain it much better in person.
Yup, that makes perfect sense. I've simply added new things as the business has grown and haven't spent the time to edit things down. It can be a downfall of mine. I'll be working on hopefully making it flow a lot better.

Learn the fundamentals of web design and user interface design, then fix your site accordingly. Look at other great websites to get ideas from.
Thanks for the advice, that is a great tip. I'm thinking I might do a quick simple makeover on the home page just to clean it up for the short-term, and then do a lot of research before doing the whole overhaul.

:iagree: It should be easy to read, navigate and straight to the point. Most people only spend about 1-2 min on the website and if it's hard to read or navigate they will leave.
That is where I have trouble, because I'm not one of those people (I usually stay on sites for much longer). I need to try to think the way most other people are instead of what I would look for in a site. Thanks for the tip, and I appreciate the advice!
 
Jarred.... I agree with Jeremy here. You have to keep the eye focused, and that's not happening. The right side of your home page seems like you are trying to think of everything possible and listed it. The slider I like, keep that updated every couple months or so (because that keeps you from having to get people to look at a portfolio page). Sure... you can have a portfolio page if you like, but THAT is not what they are there to see. They want to see specific, easy to understand, easy to price, easy to pay for packages that THEY THINK THEY NEED. ;) .........

........I would also suggest looking carefully at your copy, the grammar, spell checking, etc. For instance, look at this line: "of all painted surfaces using the the newest". See the double 'the'. ;)

Wow, you spent a ton of time looking over my website and very thoroughly critiquing it. That is super-appreciated and the kind of response that you gave is truly amazing. :dblthumb2::props::xyxthumbs: There are so many really beneficial tips throughout that entire post that I will be sure to take advantage of once I do the whole overhaul on the site. From your in-depth review and the comments from everyone else, I have decided that it definitely needs a lot of work to bring it up to what it should be. Thank you again so much, I can't put into words how appreciative I am that you spent that much time responding to my original post!!:bowdown:
 
I cant wait to see what V2.0 looks like of your site man! I have to admit mine is no where near as nice as yours so I feel bad even commenting. Lets see where you go from here!!!!!! Get after it.
 
I cant wait to see what V2.0 looks like of your site man! I have to admit mine is no where near as nice as yours so I feel bad even commenting. Lets see where you go from here!!!!!! Get after it.

Thanks for the encouragement! This is V.23.4 or something so I'll let you know when V.24.0 comes out. It's a constant evolution and it's always changing and getting a little better.
 
That's ironic/coincidental, for I was on your website just a day or two ago and sensed that it was a little too busy/congested with content. Just from a user/viewer perspective you should organize it to have content more cataloged. It looks like you tried to fit as much as you can on the home/front page. A lot of times less is more with webpages. The info can be received and processed better when there is some space for the eye to rest before trying to process more info/content. Take ideas from sites you view often and like and or just make you feel relaxed about your viewing experience, and at the same time feel that you have absorbed the info/content well. Leave advertising things like Opti-Coat to a dedicated page or section. The slide show of pics kinda takes up too much of the page IMO and the slide(s) that flash the same pic repeatedly is kinda distracting and may be to much, or annoying to people just looking for a clean, concise page about your company and offerings. Not trying to be overly critical (especially since I don't have a website) but try to be a clear and insightful as possible, since you asked. Maybe working with a web site/graphic designer on the layout and content would help. Have you been doing the site all yourself?
 
That's ironic/coincidental, for I was on your website just a day or two ago and sensed that it was a little too busy/congested with content. Just from a user/viewer perspective you should organize it to have content more cataloged. It looks like you tried to fit as much as you can on the home/front page. A lot of times less is more with webpages. The info can be received and processed better when there is some space for the eye to rest before trying to process more info/content. Take ideas from sites you view often and like and or just make you feel relaxed about your viewing experience, and at the same time feel that you have absorbed the info/content well. Leave advertising things like Opti-Coat to a dedicated page or section. The slide show of pics kinda takes up too much of the page IMO and the slide(s) that flash the same pic repeatedly is kinda distracting and may be to much, or annoying to people just looking for a clean, concise page about your company and offerings. Not trying to be overly critical (especially since I don't have a website) but try to be a clear and insightful as possible, since you asked. Maybe working with a web site/graphic designer on the layout and content would help. Have you been doing the site all yourself?

Thanks for looking Shaun, I am agreeing more and more that there is too much content, especially on the home page. Don't worry about being too harsh, it is advice that is well received.

As for working on it, I have done it 100% myself. I knew absolutely nothing about web design when I started building it about 7 years ago, and I still know nothing compared to most people working on sites. I've learned and progressed as I've slowly plugged away on it, and I plan on continuing to do so as I continue to try and improve the site. Thanks again!
 
Wow, you spent a ton of time looking over my website and very thoroughly critiquing it. That is super-appreciated and the kind of response that you gave is truly amazing. :dblthumb2::props::xyxthumbs: There are so many really beneficial tips throughout that entire post that I will be sure to take advantage of once I do the whole overhaul on the site. From your in-depth review and the comments from everyone else, I have decided that it definitely needs a lot of work to bring it up to what it should be. Thank you again so much, I can't put into words how appreciative I am that you spent that much time responding to my original post!!:bowdown:

Jarred, It means a lot to me that I was able to (at least to some degree) try to convey in a rather sterile way (with nothing but text in an open forum) ideas, and ways to work around ideas within your site in a way that you understood. Or what I was (at least trying to be) saying. ;)

BTW, my son's name is spelled the same way yours is, so I already know you're a good guy. :dblthumb2:

If you want to e-mail me I'd be happy to kick around other ideas. If you happen to have AT&T cellular I can call you for free, or you can call me anytime. :D Kicking around ideas that way would be even easier.

Honestly.... I *LIKE* the idea of providing a lot of information for the prospective client. But what you really need is no more than 3 pages where they can go and get to know who you are (about us), what you do (packages and prices) and a page with work in progress type stuff (portfolio) albeit just touching the surface.

Where on the first photos page you'd have just a few generalized shots showing tools being used, vehicles coming to life, and absolutely a couple of 50/50 shots then have a TOTALLY different full portfolio page with 1, 2, 3 shots of a vehicle or maybe a page of sliders showing each vehicle start to finish. From that page you could link through to a full photo page (perhaps outside of your site) that has in-depth workings of various processes.

Same thing for teaching/learning/sharing knowledge with customers. Perhaps they want to know how to take care of their vehicles after paying for a top notch detail. :dunno: It could be as simple as explaining the 2-bucket process, why it's needed, and how to make it happen. (Perhaps links to grit guards on your site that you'll sell them.) How to go about the drying process (with again, links to towels for sale on your site).

You might even offer a 'hands on' class with them to show them how to best take care of their newly detailed vehicle. This is especially important when they've paid good money for a paint correction.


We have a sheet that we'll give to customers called "Additional Information". It's basically a "Glossary of Terminology", words and phrases that we all use but customers don't necessarily know. Things like "Wash" and what that can mean.

Something like:
Wash
Generic term for removing loose dirt before any other exterior process is performed. This can include a normal car wash using 2-buckets, rinseless wash, waterless wash or the use of a spray detailer, while doing any of the above processes.

Then we have topics, Decontaminate, Chemically Decontaminate, 1-Step Cleaner/Wax, 2-Step: Polish & Wax, 3-Step: Compound, Polish & Wax.
Topics like What are Holograms and how did I get them?, "A note about moving the polisher too quickly over the surface", "Comment about deeper defects", "How thin is thin? Factory paint is thin!"
Then going on to tools of the trade:
Buffing Pads (and a paragraph explaining the technology behind pads, what questions to ask your detailer about pads, working with clean pads, worn out pads, etc.
Tools (as in buffers) then a breakdown of various types of buffers and name brands, Dual Action, Cyclo, Flex 3401 (force rotation), Rotary buffers (with various name brands etc.)

Then of course what you've already touched on the LSP's. Could then explain
Car Waxes, Synthetic Paint Sealants, Coatings, etc. etc. etc.

Finally you want to touch on a Maintenance Program. Explain what it is, why it's needed, and what value that brings to your customers. Some come to you because they don't know what to do. Others know they want something but don't know HOW to do it, yet may be willing to pick up the ball and run with it once you've shown them how. Then you have the type where their time is more valuable to them than just paying you your hourly rate, (and this is where your knowledge and skill comes into play). Just telling someone that you want $50~$60~$70 an hour doesn't go very far. That is until they start to see, hear, read, and understand what all goes into the work.

I had a customers wife call me today, one that we did a total paint correction on in Feb, before my April back surgery.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ss-wheel-coating-attitude-black-metallic.html

It's time for a coating booster and getting it ready for winter. They are both ex-military working at Ft. McPherson where they get hit up by so called 'detailers' all the time. She said one guy came in telling her he'll do her whole car, inside and out, buff it, and it'd be perfect all for $100. :rolleyes: She said nobody but Tony touches my car. (Even though her 'winter touchup' will run $250 and doesn't include any buffing.) ;) Unless of course we plan on reinstalling a coating! Honestly..... if it's too swirled I might go ahead and hit it with a black pad and Menz 4000 or Megs 301, or even Megs UP and just coat it again. I don't mind doing it as the total time spent wouldn't be but maybe an extra hour. Yet the results will speak for themselves. And when the results speak, their office co-workers listen, their friends listen, and they call us. :)

But you know what? Right after they picked it up, the very next time it needed washing.... she came over and bought 10 microfiber towels from me "to do it right". That's why I suggested linking to things like towels, grit guards, could even do shampoos and such. ;)
 
Havent read whole thread but what my webguy does because content is king for SEO we put a "expand" tab at the bottom of pages 99% of people will never see/click it but allows you to put heaps more content for ranking without cluttering your site
 
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