Top 3 Tips/Techniques that helped the most when first starting out?

I am fairly new at detailing but that is one thing I am so unsure to be true.

If you work a 2 X 2 area for say 2 minutes, at slow arm speed you will be doing say 8 section passes and at fast arm speed you might be doing 16. So in the end the area has been worked the same. This is just a theory of mine, but that's how I feel.


How you feel is important but consistent results are just as important. Remember, paint systems are different, some paints are hard some are soft and some are in-between, what you want is technique that works consistently on all paint systems, as well as products that use good abrasive technology, good pads and the right tools for the job.


Here's what I've been using and teaching as it relates to doing correction work with dual action polishers, rotary buffers are a different animal altogether,

When trying to remove defects, or in other words, when you're trying to remove some paint off the car, because realistically that's what you're doing in order to level the surface and thus make the "appearance" of the defects disappear,

You want the combination of,
  • Abrasive Technology --> Huge factor
  • Pad Material --> Huge factor
  • Oscillating/Rotating Action --Huge factor
  • Downward Pressure
  • Time - Total time spent on one section
  • Arm Speed

To all work together.


If you move the polisher over the paint too fast you will not give all of the above factors time to "affect" the paint. In context, the word affect means abrade it and change it.

In other words, if you move the polisher too fast over the surface, your pad and the abrasives it's supposed to be forcing to take little bites out of the paint will instead just be skimming over the surface.


Give the above some thought next time you're doing any correction work with a DA Polisher.


I agree that a person can still remove paint moving the polisher quickly over the surface but I think you lose cutting or abrading efficiently when you do this.


You can always call it personal preference. If it works for you and it works for Larry then that's all that's important. I've met Larry a few times, he sat through all my detailing classes at Mobil Tech Expo last year.


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1. You have to see what you are doing, ( lightning and what happens with the surface )

2. Start with the least aggressive technique.

3. Evaluate what happens with the surface and make sure you have a lot of time to do proper work.

Hope this is ok
 
Test your skills on your friends cars that look like #### first! LOL
If you screw up then just give them a free detail and actually you are learning while working but they think they are getting a super deal.

Wash your towels as they are what make your work look good. If you don't take care of your towels it can get ugly for you!!

Constantly research until you think you know it all, then research more and never stop learning. Other peoples mistakes can teach you a lot and their advice may help you significantly. Looking at something from many angles brings many points of view!!
 
I agree with you Mike that all those factors affect the result. I am just saying that this specific aspect probably is not as important at everyone seems to think. Given the choice going slow with a DA makes a lot of sense. But doing 2 or 3 times more passes in the same amount of time will do a lot of correction too. I would have to do 2 test pannels one with each method to see the difference, that might actually be a nice project to do ;)
 
I have by no means mastered my 3 yet and I am early in my detailing education but here are 3 things I think are important:

1 - Slow down - whether it's washing, waxing, buffing, whatever - slow down.

2 - Less is more (self explanatory)

3 - No matter how excited you are about the new product you just used and how great it looks, your wife does not care nearly as much as you do.
 
I have by no means mastered my 3 yet and I am early in my detailing education but here are 3 things I think are important:

1 - Slow down - whether it's washing, waxing, buffing, whatever - slow down.

2 - Less is more (self explanatory)

3 - No matter how excited you are about the new product you just used and how great it looks, your wife does not care nearly as much as you do.


AMEN BROTHER AND DITTO ON #3!

My 3 things:

1. I still dont think I am close to charging for paint correction. Shiny yes, full correction, no - Self Aware is a good quality.

2. A garage would be sooo nice to have.

3. If there is a leaf or a small something that can magically show up in your MF, IT WILL!! (and you wife wont care at all untill she sees you buying more)
 
3 - No matter how excited you are about the new product you just used and how great it looks, your wife does not care nearly as much as you do.

Ha ha... :laughing:

Good comedy is always based in truth.



I agree with you Mike that all those factors affect the result. I am just saying that this specific aspect probably is not as important at everyone seems to think.

As long as you're getting the results you're looking for that's what's most important. :xyxthumbs:

I know first hand though that moving the "Porter Cable" style polisher and even most other types of polishers slowly over the surface has proven itself to be the most effective way for removing paint which is how you remove below surface defects out of the paint.

When you move the polisher quickly over the surface the pad is skimming over the paint and you really arn't doing anything.

That's why in this article I list it as one of the most common mistakes people make.

DA Polisher Trouble Shooting Guide

In fact it's #2 in the list right below working too large of an area at one time, which is also a common newbie mistake.




3. If there is a leaf or a small something that can magically show up in your MF, IT WILL!!

(and you wife wont care at all untill she sees you buying more)


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As long as you're getting the results you're looking for that's what's most important. :xyxthumbs:

I know first hand though that moving the "Porter Cable" style polisher and even most other types of polishers slowly over the surface has proven itself to be the most effective way for removing paint which is how you remove below surface defects out of the paint.

When you move the polisher quickly over the surface the pad is skimming over the paint and you really arn't doing anything.

That's why in this article I list it as one of the most common mistakes people make.

DA Polisher Trouble Shooting Guide

In fact it's #2 in the list right below working too large of an area at one time, which is also a common newbie mistake.

:laughing:

I will be testing it today and making a video of it. I am a visual guy so I want to see the difference ;) Will post it on youtube once it's done and place a link here.
 
Good thread. I am a total newbie and have just completed a full color correction on my car for the very first time. All I had ever done to the car over the last 19 years was give her a wash and occasional wax. So I decided the old girl needed a makeover.

After about a month of reading articles on this forum, I bought some products and over a period of 10 days completed the job.

The results are night and day. I documented my progress with pictures and kept a log of time spent on each task as well as the costs involved.

I am planning on posting on my experience in the next few days, the things that worked and where I screwed up due to my inexperience. :mad:

It was an interesting project for me and so many of the comments on this post have rung particularly true.

Cheers,

Allan
 
I will be testing it today and making a video of it. I am a visual guy so I want to see the difference ;) Will post it on youtube once it's done and place a link here.

I'm sure this will be very interesting to a lot of people. Looking forward to your results.



Good thread. I am a total newbie and have just completed a full color correction on my car for the very first time. All I had ever done to the car over the last 19 years was give her a wash and occasional wax. So I decided the old girl needed a makeover.

After about a month of reading articles on this forum, I bought some products and over a period of 10 days completed the job.

The results are night and day. I documented my progress with pictures and kept a log of time spent on each task as well as the costs involved.

I am planning on posting on my experience in the next few days, the things that worked and where I screwed up due to my inexperience. :mad:

It was an interesting project for me and so many of the comments on this post have rung particularly true.

Cheers,

Allan


That is so cool to read Allen, I can't wait to read your write-up.


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