Total Swirl free wash, is this possible?

1 thing I've learned is to rinse, rinse, rinse. Before my wash mitt touches the car, I rinse it well. Use a good wash mitt, clean it every couple passes. Use the proper drying towel (waffle Weave) and air if possible. I've had my car over a year and no swirls.
 
It looks like your 4 steps above do not include any friction on the paint (other than water induced). To me, that should guarantee no scratches however, does that process get the paint fully cleaned of all dirt and debris? I use a foam gun, a clean water rinse bucket with grit guards and a very soft, non marring mitt. Drip method to dry followed by a blow dry and WW blot. I own BLACK! Even after that i inevitably encounter something that is stuck to the paint somewhere. There are those stubborn little spot buggers that remain that are between not coming off during the wash and not really needing a clay bar.
 
If you have a quality lsp, preferably a coating. Then yes, touchless works very well.
 
Coatings have literally put touchless washing back on the map. I used one all winter long in the roughest winter we had in twenty years...the car looked incredible after each wash and once a month I'd hit it with a waterless wash/MF post wash application. Coatings change the way you will look at touchless washing. I'm convinced you can obtain 95-98% clean without touching the paint. I'm playing around with various citrus based super cleaning foams and its remarkable how close we can get to true touchless maintenance....but coatings are the key.
 
Calendyr said:
You can't clean a car without having something touching it. Here's a video you will want to Watch if you think otherwise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxMLlRlI9Tc
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I agree. Coated or not, the car may be "cleaner" after a TFW - but it will not be detailed by any touch free wash. If anyone says otherwise, I'd like to see them do a touch free wash to their car - then put a polisher down on it.
 
If it makes your car look 95% better, then that's pretty damn good. If you have kids and don't have time to do a 2BW, it's pretty effective. Besides, if you have really soft paint, no matter what wash media you use, there is still a possibility of dirt or debris from being outside (which is where the majority washes there cars) that gets blown onto that perfect paint under that Australian wool wash mitt and the marring begins. Is a Touchless the best wash, not necessarily, but if it looks a lot better and you don't have to worry about scratching your paint or as I stated prior, don't have the time. Then it's a good trade off for a 2BW. The OP asked if a swirl free wash was possible, and not touching the paint is the only way not to induce swirls or scratches.
 
Love the junkman too but here's a guy who still thinks wax doesn't change the look of polished paint. I can almost guarantee he doesn't have a coating on his car in that video you are referring so frankly its not really relevant to my point...plus he's not using anything remotely capable of removing that crud on his car.



All I can say is try a coating and experiment with different foams using a foam cannon. See for yourself and be prepared to think outside the conventional box. I'll say this also...since using a coating and touchless car washes in winter (versus hand washing it in the cold myself), I have no swirls to polish out anymore in the spring..so to the OPs original thought...its very possible touchless washing if your car is coated properly...changes the rules and frankly saves you a lot of time and money polishing paint and hauling out the wash buckets. My washing routine is ridiculous simple now...foam, rinse, hit with UWW...done. No buckets, no scratches or swirls. In winter I don't usually touch the paint anymore.
 
whate are some good coatings then? preferably if you guys can suggest like Meguiars or Mothers as these are the only products that we have that really is accessible


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Silverfox:

"In winter I don't usually touch the paint anymore."

We must be neighbors. I have not touched my paint in 2 years now during the winter. And I live in NE. CC scratches are almost nonexistent on my car come spring since coating. I aim for 95-98% touchless clean during the spring/summer/fall months. Winters 90-95% is good enuf for me.

SL%%:

Coatings that come to mind. Optimum, gtechniq, CQ, gyeon, DG (wowa)...Let others chime in.
 
Opti Coat Pro if you are down to pay for someone to install it. You could possibly do all the prep work before hand yourself, but the finish must be flawless otherwise you're just trapping swirls under the coating (which is theoretically permanent)
 
Tacket said:
Opti You could possibly do all the prep work before hand yourself, but the finish must be flawless otherwise you're just trapping swirls under the coating (which is theoretically permanent)
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This should be the case with any coating, correct?

Another coating option is the new one from Duragloss. I don't think Mothers or Meguiar's offer them, and I've never seen a coating in a retail store.
 
sponging the ideas friends and thank you but another curious question

wraps are now famous as well, say example, you want your car wrapped like Xpel clear (the one that heals on its own on light scratches) and you want protection will the ff procedure work? or way too much?

bnew car

detail it for prep

When flawless, put coating

wrap it with products like Xpel.


Will these steps work OR if its a coat leave it is?


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I have seen coatings over a wrap

I don't recall seeing a wrap applied over a coating
 
fly07sti said:
If it makes your car look 95% better, then that's pretty damn good. If you have kids and don't have time to do a 2BW, it's pretty effective. Besides, if you have really soft paint, no matter what wash media you use, there is still a possibility of dirt or debris from being outside (which is where the majority washes there cars) that gets blown onto that perfect paint under that Australian wool wash mitt and the marring begins. Is a Touchless the best wash, not necessarily, but if it looks a lot better and you don't have to worry about scratching your paint or as I stated prior, don't have the time. Then it's a good trade off for a 2BW. The OP asked if a swirl free wash was possible, and not touching the paint is the only way not to induce swirls or scratches.
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I totally agree that you can get a car much cleaner without touching it. But it will still have road grim attached to it when you are done. So I guess it dépends how clean is acceptable for you.

In the winter I think it is totally acceptable to do a pressure washer wash and nothing else. The car will be filthy the second to you drive it again so why bother with a complete wash anyway. To me, in the winter the idea is to remove salt and calcium from the paint and metal.

During the summer, doing a wash that did not get the car completelly clean would not be acceptable to me. So I guess it's a matter of preference.
 
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