Tree Sap Woes, Please Help!

MarkD51

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Hello Folks,
Today I set out to clay my Magenta 2001 Kia Spectra, as about a week ago, the baggie test on the hood was revealing lots of "bumps"

Figuring I was maybe due for Claying again, and after a wash, out came the Pinnacle Blue Bar. Again, no good, two total passes on the roof, and it was not much different, just too mild (or so I'm thinking). Then broke out the Yellow Mother's Bar, and again, after about 6 complete passes on one side, it was almost there, but still very hard, and I was being literally worked to death. With each time I clayed, it was getting better and better.

Thinking I maybe needed something more aggressive, the only thing I could think of and do, was run over to the local paint supply shop, and decided to try a Red Medium Grade Clay Magic Bar. When he rang up the bill, I was shocked, with tax one Bar was $34! Holey Moley!

This aspect of trying to keep the finish "bump free" is getting ridiculous, and as well emptying my bank account trying to keep up here.

(The Tahoe put me through the same back breaking work a few months back)

It should be noted, that on any of the Clay Bars, no real dirts were being pulled off the paint, and shown on the Clay. This appears to be evidence that this is not some sort of contaminant fallout, but Tree Sap. I have two Italian Cyprus Trees, and another "regular" type tree, perhaps a Poplar within about 100' of the vehicle. Where I park at work, there are no Trees.

Please help me folks, there has to be a better way, a faster way and a less expensive way to go about this?

The money, and hard work spent are killing me physically, and financially.

Can something else be used, without the hard work, lower cost, and be effective, without damaging the finish? A Prep Solv perhaps, or?

Thanks, Mark
 
^^ why would you use a compound so soon?? That's horrible advice


OP I recommend a PAINT CLEANER like duragloss 501 with a white pad. Should work very well and it won't remove any clear coat...
 
^^ why would you use a compound so soon?? That's horrible advice


OP I recommend a PAINT CLEANER like duragloss 501 with a white pad. Should work very well and it won't remove any clear coat...

+1 If you want something quick the Megs Deep crystal step 1 paint cleaner. It is very nice also and you can get it almost anywhere. White pad or maybe try a black pad since its a little less aggressive I would think.
 
^^ why would you use a compound so soon?? That's horrible advice


OP I recommend a PAINT CLEANER like duragloss 501 with a white pad. Should work very well and it won't remove any clear coat...

This sounds like one much easier way to deal with the problem, in that I have #501, plenty of 5.5" White Flat LC Pads, and using the PC7424XP would sure be a lot easier on my body.

I gather that you're saying that the chemical action of the solvents in 501 would "cut-dissolve" the Sap?

Perhaps one downside, is that I'm planning on also doing a mild paint correction with Menz SF4500, and applying another type of Coating this time (Detailer's Pro), and the 501 might work me in another fashion, in trying to again strip the paint of this Sealant?

I don't have the Detailer's Pro Paint Cleaning product on hand, hoping that the polish, and a final wipe with CP Eraser will suffice to prep the paint for the Coating?

What about a product like the Nanoskin Speedy Prep Sponges? Are these Sponges also effective on removing Tree Sap, and would they possibly be quicker, easier, and less expensive than Clay?
Mark
 
I do not have Cyprus Trees where I live so I can't speak about that, but I do have pine trees and often times I clean vehicles with dried on pine sap on the body. You can clay it and it will not come off so I normally spay a ittle Tarminator on the spot and it usually wipes right off and smooths up. I have had some spots that I have to spray Tarminator and use a plastic razor bade to remove the sap. Afterwards I will polish and wax the area. No saying this wil help your problem but it does work on dried pine sap.
 
Some products methods I have used for Sap:

Tarminator
3M Adheisve Remover
IPA mix
Straight IPA
Purell Hand Sanitizer
 
Some products methods I have used for Sap:

Tarminator
3M Adheisve Remover
IPA mix
Straight IPA
Purell Hand Sanitizer
Purell is just 70% Alcohol so its the same as an IPA.

Just thought of trying Naptha also. wear golves!,, but its a great cleaner for paint prep also. it will take all your protection off, but so does any paint cleaner. As mentioned, the deep crystal works very well on everything else. clay for after that. at least thats how I do it.
 
WD40 usually removes all kinds of gunk from paint.

I get small pinpoint size dried sap all the time, and I use a credit card against the edge of the sap to break the bond between the sap and paint. I use both hands to control pressure so the card doesn't travel more than it needs to.

Claybars are useless in my case. The sap just carves lines into the clay.
 
Purell is just 70% Alcohol so its the same as an IPA.

Just thought of trying Naptha also. wear golves!,, but its a great cleaner for paint prep also. it will take all your protection off, but so does any paint cleaner. As mentioned, the deep crystal works very well on everything else. clay for after that. at least thats how I do it.

Roger. Purell is gel like and doesn't run like IPA mix. You can dab it on a specific spot and it will stay put while it works on the tar or sap. That's why I mentioned it.
 
Might want to try mineral spirits. It worked for me on pine sap. Let the mineral spirits "dwell" on the surface for a while.


Tom:cool:
 
Chemical Guys have a bug remover spray, I put some on a towel and let it soak on the spot, then clean off, works real good on pine sap.
 
I hate those little pin tip size dried on sap dots. I usually take my plastic razor cut them off then use a makeup applicator pad soaked in tarX and just let it sit on the spot for a few mins. Looks like car cut it self shaving all over by time I find them all
 
I have some pretty big sap splotches. Like eraser size and up and pretty thick. Do you you think these methods will work for sap that size? 1 year old Prius, metallic gray.
 
I have used DP Road kill in the past with a 10:1 ratio in a pump sprayer. sprayed the whole car. then foamed it. then added a little road kill to my rinse bucket. and the tree sap came off easy.

before i had all that product i have used a diluted Dawn mixture and it would take it all off
 
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