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Hi, I'm Drew. I have always washed my cars car wash soap and assorted waxes all purchased from Walmart more or less until a friend turned me onto autogeek and swears by souveran. After reading a round I figured I'd just get a package and thought the original forum favorite was a good start. I'm still waiting for my package to come in the mail but mostly am considering the souveran for my red civic and red Mercedes. With the Klasse twins what wax would you recommend for my parents white and silver Mercedes?

I'm wanting to start with manual application but maybe I should just be smart and get PC or flex since I'm frequently detailing 4 cars.

Washing and claying I am comfortable with, but I'm hoping ill be impressed enough with Klasse aio and two coats of Klasse SG. Before I put on the souveran.

Thanks for all the great reading guys.
 
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Hi, I'm Drew. I have always washed my cars car wash soap and assorted waxes all purchased from Walmart more or less until a friend turned me onto autogeek and swears by souveran.


After reading a round I figured I'd just get a package and thought the original forum favorite was a good start. I'm still waiting for my package to come in the mail but mostly am considering the souveran for my red civic and red Mercedes. With the Klasse twins what wax would you recommend for my parents white and silver Mercedes?

I Drew and welcome to AutogeekOnline! :welcome:


I noticed you only had one reply to your thread, here's why...

You posted your first post in the Introduction Forum and that's good forum netiquette, basically, post a thread like you did to say,

"Hi!"


Then, if you have questions, start a new thread in the appropriately themed "Forum Group".

If you click on the word "Forum" at the top of each page under the cartoon character "Ivan", it will take you to a list of topical groups. Pick one that looks like it's about your topic.

For general questions, most people either post to,

Auto Detailing 101

Ask Mike Phillips


Then, and this is important... write a "title" to your thread that tells the reader what your post is about,

For example in your case,


First time machine polishing - have questions?


Lots of our forum members will read that title and the >click< on the thread and read your questions and then of course, post their helpful replies.

It's both a good title and posting a thread in the right forum group that helps you to help yourself to get great answers and lots of them...


Make sense?


Here's two article I wrote years ago that cover these topics...


A tip to help yourself get great answers when you start a thread

How to write a good title for your thread




Anyway, I see posts like this all the time in the "Introduction Forum Group" so once in a while I chime in and try to offer some tips to new members on how to get the best use of our super helpful forum.

They are ALWAYS meant to be taken as nothing more than helpful tips...


While I'm here,


I'm wanting to start with manual application but maybe I should just be smart and get PC or flex since I'm frequently detailing 4 cars.

Most people start with a PC "style" tool and then outgrow it and move up to a Flex.

In my opinion, if you're just working on your own cars a Porter Cable is a very high quality tool that is more than capable of handling 4 cars. The proof is MILLIONS of cars have been buffed out with the Porter Cable since they were introduced to the paint polishing world in the early 1990's.


If you think you might want to make some money detailing cars then a forced rotation dual action polisher will give you a LOT more power and it's this factor that decreases at least "some" of the buffing time involved in a detail job.



Washing and claying I am comfortable with, but I'm hoping ill be impressed enough with Klasse aio and two coats of Klasse SG. Before I put on the souveran.

Thanks for all the great reading guys.


The Klasse AIO is a good chemical only cleaner/wax, see this thread I just posted yesterday to see "why" to use a cleaner/wax on any car that is a daily driver.

Here's why you need to polish paint...


IF this is your first time using Klasse SG then read this thread before you use it and follow the directions, you will be thankful.

A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you




I'd recommend watching this video too... it covers a TON of topics and techniques...


Video: How to remove shallow RIDS and how to machine apply both a paint sealant and a finishing wax



PorterCable7424XP2.jpg


In this video, you'll see how to inspect and remove RIDS or Random Isolated Deeper Scratches using 4" Spot Repair Pads on a Porter Cable 7424XP DA Polisher.


How to remove shallow RIDS and how to machine
apply both a paint sealant and a finishing wax
[video=youtube_share;3xJH_MGgbLw&hd=1"]How to remove shallow RIDS and how to machine...[/video]​



This how-to video also covers,

  • RIDS - Random Isolated Deeper Scratches
  • Removing watches and any jewelery
  • Using a DA Polisher without the handle
  • Placing cord over shoulder
  • Priming the pad on a DA Polisher
  • Speed settings for removing isolated defects
  • Downward pressure needed for removing isolated defects
  • How to clean a pad on the fly
  • Where and why to mark your backing plate with a black mark
  • Rotating the body of the tool to keep the pad flat to a panel
  • Why to allow the pad to stop spinning before lifting the pad off the paint
  • How to swap backing plates from a 3.5" to a 5"
  • Machine waxing using 5.5" Hydro-Tech Crimson Finishing pads with Menzerna Power Lock
  • The "Kissing the Finish" Technique
  • How to do the Swipe Test to check if a wax or paint sealant is dry
  • How to remove dried paint sealant using a microfiber bonnet on a dry pad on a DA Polisher
  • How to clean a microfiber bonnet on the fly with your fingernails
  • How to apply a paste wax by machine - Souveran Paste Wax
  • How to carefully wipe a WOWO wax off by hand using Microfiber Gloves and plush Microfiber Towels
  • How and why to fold a microfiber towel 4-ways to wipe wax off
  • How to break-open a coat of wax and then creep out to carefully wipe off a coating of wax
  • How to do the "Final Wipe"


Hope all of the above helps...


:)
 
Souverän is a very nice wax. In fact I use it sometimes. However, its not the best product for a daily driver car that sits outside 24/7. Its not the most durable wax, its more of a show wax.

Its great to use on any car, especially under a sealant like Klasse. But, it may not last very long.
 
Welcome! I use Pinnacle Souveran Liquid topped with Souveran on my Black Lexus. On my silver Toyota I use a sealant like Wolfgang or Black Fire. On Both good prep is the key to a nice look. Polish and clay as needed first. Good luck.
 
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