Not trying to pick a fight and I can see your point about having gallons of other stuff around but , to me, the key point in your statement ( and we are talking about what Lube to use with NanoSkin Scrubs) is when you say...." probably extremely similar products" ? How similar is, what you have found to work. I would imagine that would be based on trial and error and if time =money then induced marring by a lessor lube doesn't make much sense either. BUT...I am just a home owner and not trying to do commercial volume work.
Using Nanoskin Autoscrub Sponge with QD
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Not trying to pick a fight and I can see your point about having gallons of other stuff around but , to me, the key point in your statement ( and we are talking about what Lube to use with NanoSkin Scrubs) is when you say...." probably extremely similar products" ? How similar is, what you have found to work. I would imagine that would be based on trial and error and if time =money then induced marring by a lessor lube doesn't make much sense either. BUT...I am just a home owner and not trying to do commercial volume work.
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No, no. Discussion and dialog is good! :xyxthumbs:
I think it's fairly well accepted that machine-decontamination should normally be followed by a correction or polishing step. I would assume using the medium grade cloth, sponge or mitt would also induce some form of marring and require an extra step.
Most of the cars I work on aren't garage queens and virtually all of them are in the daily driver to neglected range. Other than on my own car (not even my wife's!), I don't think I've skipped a correction or polishing step in three or four years, it's the nature of the cars I do.
I think it's fairly well accepted that machine-decontamination should normally be followed by a correction or polishing step. I would assume using the medium grade cloth, sponge or mitt would also induce some form of marring and require an extra step.
Most of the cars I work on aren't garage queens and virtually all of them are in the daily driver to neglected range. Other than on my own car (not even my wife's!), I don't think I've skipped a correction or polishing step in three or four years, it's the nature of the cars I do.
OK, OK...you win! Just kidding. After all the suggestions I believe I'll go ahead and polish after using the Auto Scrub Towel. I did pull the car out in the sunlight and didn't see any obvious marring or swirls. My thoughts were, barring carrying a swirl light around...if I can't see any in the sun light, no one else will either. but since I have done this much I guess a quick polish won't hurt before I put a sealer on. I was really trying to get out of doing all the taping required but I guess that's part of the process
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trick to that,, stay an inch away from your black trim and stuff till your pad is mostly worked out, then you can CAREFULLY take it very close to the edge. takes practice,, buts saves taping.. this is really good around seams.
Have any of you used the nanskin glide?
The blue bottle one I was told is specifically made for claying with the nanoskin.
For those of you that use it, what dilution ratio do you use so you don't go through the bottle extremely fast while still allowing for plenty of lubricity for less chance of marring the paint?
Their dilution rate for use with a NanoSkin Scrub is " 7 to 1 " Do the math. using a 28 oz spray bottle, put in 24.5 oz of water then pour in 3.5 oz of the lube. Do it in that order so it doesn't foam up on you while filling the bottle. I just did a mid size SUV with less than a full bottle. IMO...you have two conflicting thoughts. On one hand you are concerned about how much to use BUT on the other hand want plenty of lubricity to reduce the chance of marring. IF...I had used an entire bottle and not had any marring, I still would have been pleasedAlso there is a different dilution rate listed for use with regular clay. Believe it's 10 to 1. That tells me that the NanoScrub system requires a lube with greater lubricity than regular clay. I'll stay with the NanoSkin Lube and dilute it correctly if I am going to use their scrum...My opinion.
Thanks for the info. Sorry if my post was mis-read...
It's not so much that my thoughts are conflicting, it's that in many cases you want to make the most of what product you have purchased while doing the best quality work right? Especially when it is a rather more pricy product lets say than Meguiars Last Touch Detailer (which I also have in my arsenal).
I know I can dump alot of lube on there to reduce marring, as is with any clay lubricant, and that will work great yes... but since this is a concentrated product unlike the last tough (ready to use) I'm asking how those great results can also be achieved by not having to dump more lube on there than is necessary for production detailing work.
The bottom line, as Mike P. talks about "Production detailing vs Show Car" if I do that over and over again on every car using more product than needed, well then considering the price of the product, how much $$$ will I be eating in profit at the end of the day when doing many vehicles while still doing highest quality work I can offer my clients right?
Reason I am asking my question for the most part and not just reading the bottle, is mainly because often times I have seen detailers on the this forum write how they have actually gotten good, or BETTER results using certain products in ways that extend their usage while "still" extending their pocket book...
I do appreciate your opinion as I do everyone on this forum, so thank you for answering my questions to the best of your ability, I hope I was able to clear things up a bit. :xyxthumbs:
You have a point when it comes to production detailing on maybe using less expensive detail lube hoping for the same results. I guess that's OK IF someone can comment on different lubes with NanoSkin scrubs and has used them. Since this was my first outing with NanoSkin scrubs and I'm just doing the family cars I'll stick with their lube and play it safe. BTW...I have the better part of a gallon of Chemical Guys Acrylic detail spray that says can be used for a clay lube. It doesn't say anything about us with nanoSkin so I didn't try it. IMO...better safe than sorry. Like I said...the Nano Skin lube states to dilute 7 to 1 for Nano Skin and 10 to 1 for clay. The more lubricity required for Nano Skin is where I can see getting in trouble with lubes that don't say how to dilute for Nano Skin ?
Yes thats always the search is finding what yields the same results without paying a higher amount so you actually can make some money from all your hard work. I have quite a few lubes just like many other detailers here and the meguiars last touch I have always used as my clay lubricant with "traditional" clay. Oh man let me tell you I COMPLETELY saturate the panels with that stuff to make sure there is no marring.
The nanoskin however I literally JUST started using and its a whole new animal. When I first heard about it I didn't really think it could do as good as a job as clay does and oh man was I wrong! In some cases it has outperformed some of my clays and I have a few different major brands.
So now, I am thinking for future detailing work I plan to use the nanoskin MUCH more than traditional clay, but just like everyone else trying to decide which is the best lube.
I agree with you on playing it safe. I have no desire to be cheap and mar up anyone's car let alone my own which I take such good care of. Having black for most your vehicles paint colors leaves very low room for error most especially when it comes to marring and fine scratches.
You're right when it comes to claying, I also don't want to take a chance and I do tend to use quite a bit of product and I usually saturate each panel quite heavily allowing no dry spots.
I've never used chemical guys clay lube and have not seen many people using it I've mostly seen others using Meguiars lubes so not sure how well it would work but I think you made a good decision in purchasing the lube they say is made for their nanoskin being that it is so different in its properties compared to clay.
I tried out the NanoSkin Scrub Towel mainly because I was didn't have enough clay and was going to have to buy some more so decided to try the NanoSkin. I am real glad I did and for what I am doing don't see going back to clay...this is to easy compared to regular clay and faster!
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Any qd or waterless wash will work.