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jdgamble said:
Good point Mike. I also returned the Torq DA that I started with and purchased a GG6. That made a world of difference. But I still tried the CG VSS with the GG6, and the results were not good. I felt like I was creating imperfections while polishing.


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This brings up a interesting question. If the "contact patch", i.e. pads and polishing products, are high quality, does the DA polisher matter that much? I'm not saying all DA polishers are made equal, but I've got a cheap, crude, low-rent DA (purchased before I joined here and became educated). When paired with an LC backing plate, LC pads, and good polishes I've been able to produce great results. I know a better DA could produce the same results faster with less vibration stress on my hands/arms, but I'm more interested in what other possible gains would result from upgrade the tool to the same standards as the rest of my products.
 
The issue I had with the Torq was that I couldn't keep it moving. It just didn't have enough power. The only other experience I have is the GG6, which has plenty of power. Based on this, I would say the machine is pretty important.


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I've never stalled out the polisher, so I guess it has that going for it!
 
jdgamble said:
The issue I had with the Torq was that I couldn't keep it moving. It just didn't have enough power. The only other experience I have is the GG6, which has plenty of power. Based on this, I would say the machine is pretty important.


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It could also be a technique thing.

I've used a GG6 along side an original PC, while the GG6 is obviously more robust, maintaining pad rotation was never an issue with either tool. Even a cheap department store orbital will rotate if used with a technique that allows for rotation.
 
Could be. It was my first time using a DA. But even on a flat surface, even light pressure would stop rotation. It was terrible. It was the Torq X... It has a very low current motor. Lowest rated of any that I looked at (after I bought it of course).


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jdgamble said:
It was terrible. It was the Torq X... It has a very low current motor. Lowest rated of any that I looked at (after I bought it of course).


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The Torqx polisher has a 700 watt motor, which makes it among the strongest in the 8mm class. 200 watts more than the Meguiars MT300, way more then the Porter Cable.. Where are you getting your information?
 
680W for Torqx... 850 for GG6. I didn't look at the PC, but you're right, it's only 540. I can only speak from experience. The Torqx would stop on the slightest curve, while the GG keeps moving. Maybe I had a bad unit. Reviews indicate that the Torq tools are prone to failure.


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jdgamble said:
680W for Torqx... 850 for GG6. I didn't look at the PC, but you're right, it's only 540. I can only speak from experience. The Torqx would stop on the slightest curve, while the GG keeps moving. Maybe I had a bad unit. Reviews indicate that the Torq tools are prone to failure.


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700W for Torqx polisher.

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And FWIW, motor rating is part of the equation. Equally important is motor efficiency. Mike is the one who told me the Torq was a weak polisher and suggested the GG6. He prompted my response (see above). Have you actually used a TorqX tool?


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jdgamble said:
And FWIW, motor rating is part of the equation. Equally important is motor efficiency. Mike is the one who told me the Torq was a weak polisher and suggested the GG6. He prompted my response (see above). Have you actually used a TorqX tool?


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No I haven’t. I was simply reading your post and it didn’t match up to the specs I had read. Torq, Torqfx, I didn’t even know there was more than 1. Whatever, it’s not my polisher.
 
Back to the original question, I have a '13 BMW with the same Sapphire Black Metallic paint. Last year I did a full compound, polish and seal so this year I was planning on only doing polish and seal only as I don't want to sacrifice more clear coat than I have to. I have used a number of products on it, being a noob, I have an assortment of polishes and compounds. Something about this forum, someone mentions a product that I don't have and I feel a compulsion to buy it (I know, I need a meeting.) I have used Menz 400 and 3500 with great results, but I also got great results with Megs 105/205. This time I used the Wolfgang 3.0 and tried with a white LC pad on the Flex and got minimal results on a test spot. I was thinking the Wolfgang would not do the trick, but I tried it with an orange pad and I got 80-90% correction. I was very pleased.

I guess this is a long way of saying that the Wolfgang Swirl remover 3.0 should do a great job on your black BMW.
 
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