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So, I found some time today to detail my car. I planned on doing a wash, decon, and wax. I used CarPro Trix in the direct sunlight, as I have done plenty of times before today with no issue, but today was different. After using it, the paint looks like it has some bubbling, orange peel, staining, in the pattern of water spots. I honestly have never seen this before.Left it on for 7 minutes or so, and The product was still wet when I rinsed, although the bottle was older, from 2015 I think so I don't know if that had anything to do with it.

Will post pics later as the sun is blasting and the damage/stain/whatever it is is hard to see in sunlight but very easy to see on camera in the shade.

Either way, the humbling was nice. We all need it from time to time, right?

I did try to polish with M101 on my GG6, but no luck, admittedly I didn't try more than one pass. I also polished my B-pillar and found out it has single stage paint, go figure.
 
I had a similar issue with iron x on clear coat rims. Used times before in direct and on one hot day I left normal amount of time. Came back and rinsed and can notice faint water spots that won't go away. They are hazy. When I tried to rub with my first her it actually looked like it was eating the clear coat to an extent , as the clear coat got soft. The spot I rubbed looks rough from When I rubbed it with my finger as it actually agitated the clear coat itself. I was cleaning the rims to sell them and never bother to fix as most of what I tried had no effect. It's not overly noticeable....but to me I can see it every time I look at the rim.

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Kind of hard to diagnose without pictures. I know for sure TRIX would not cause orange peel, that is an aspect of how the paint was flowed onto the panel when it was originally painted.
 
I don't remember reading that Iron X or Trix can be used in direct sunlight.
 
It does say right on the bottle not to. In saying that. There are many products that say that but can be used just fine in the sun light. Like p21 wax. I've waxed numerous times in blistering heat and do 2 x 2 sections at a time with no issue.

For me I just let it bake jn there rather than a short dwell time. That was my lesson learned.

Wanted to let op know he wasn't the only one to make a similar mistake. Only way I seem to learn is from my mistakes :)

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TiCaLLioNStaLLyN said:
It does say right on the bottle not to. In saying that. There are many products that say that but can be used just fine in the sun light. Like p21 wax. I've waxed numerous times in blistering heat and do 2 x 2 sections at a time with no issue.

For me I just let it bake jn there rather than a short dwell time. That was my lesson learned.

Wanted to let op know he wasn't the only one to make a similar mistake. Only way I seem to learn is from my mistakes :)

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There's another way to learn, read the directions.
 
Rsurfer said:
There's another way to learn, read the directions.
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Sorry but I don't have a garage and I can definitely read and comprehend instructions. Everything gets done in direct sunlight or nothing detailing related for me could ever get done. That means using stuff in direct sunlight. And I've used Iron-X and Trix in sunlight before with no issue. I don't know what went wrong today, I went through the same routine I usually do.
 
juvefan30 said:
Sorry but I don't have a garage and I can definitely read and comprehend instructions. Everything gets done in direct sunlight or nothing detailing related for me could ever get done. That means using stuff in direct sunlight. And I've used Iron-X and Trix in sunlight before with no issue. I don't know what went wrong today, I went through the same routine I usually do.
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Buy a pop up tent.
 
I don't have a driveway. The street I live one is a one-way and is narrow. The tent would block traffic. This is what I have to deal with. :)
 
I have experienced this with strong citrous cleaners, the chemical actually swells the paint and gives the look of orange peel. I would give it a day or two and allow the chemical to evaporate fully and if it still has the appearance of orange peel,
you may need to wetsand and buff it out.
 
Why not do it early in the morning or late in the evening when there isn't direct sunlight?
 
Strong66 said:
I have experienced this with strong citrous cleaners, the chemical actually swells the paint and gives the look of orange peel. I would give it a day or two and allow the chemical to evaporate fully and if it still has the appearance of orange peel,
you may need to wetsand and buff it out.
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Interesting, that would be encouraging, but it doesn't seem like from what I'm seeing. I also sealed the paint so I hope that doesn't prevent any possible outgassing from this. It looks like it took the pattern of the hard water spots from the previous night's rainstorm. I will try my rotary on it since the B-pillar showed some improvement after DA compounding. This is so odd, it's not all over car either just in random spots that were in and out of sunlight. Other spots that were in the sunlight are free from this. :\

fiveoboy01 said:
Why not do it early in the morning or late in the evening when there isn't direct sunlight?
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Because life's imperfect. I've used Iron-x/Trix on hotter days with no issue before.
 
Sorry to read this.

I have some spots down one side of my vehicle that might be Iron-X related, I can't say for certain. I haven't tried to do anything about it other then wash with a few different shampoos. I think the Iron-X didn't play well with the coating I have. It was indoors and only left on for 4 minutes. Still very wet when rinsed and washed off.
 
Sorry to hear about the problem you have. Maybe next time you need to do something like this, search around for a family member or friend who has a garage, or at least some decent shade. Pay it back, shine their ride, dinner, drinks, etc.
 
I've known people to use coin-ops as well for their water and shade. Just don't do it when there is a line LOL
 
juvefan30 said:
Sorry but I don't have a garage and I can definitely read and comprehend instructions. Everything gets done in direct sunlight or nothing detailing related for me could ever get done. That means using stuff in direct sunlight. And I've used Iron-X and Trix in sunlight before with no issue. I don't know what went wrong today, I went through the same routine I usually do.
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There is a simple solution to this, but so many people seem to miss it...... wash your car when the sun has set. If there is no sun in the sky, there is no "direct sunlight" to worry about ;)

I wash my car in the evening all the time once my kid goes to sleep. Sure, my neighbors think I am weird, but I can wash the entire car before rinsing and never have issues with water spotting.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
There is a simple solution to this, but so many people seem to miss it...... wash your car when the sun has set. If there is no sun in the sky, there is no "direct sunlight" to worry about ;)

I wash my car in the evening all the time once my kid goes to sleep. Sure, my neighbors think I am weird, but I can wash the entire car before rinsing and never have issues with water spotting.
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I do this as well. Not to mention it's much more comfy to wash when it's not hot outside.
 
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