Video: Trying P&S Bead Maker for the first time.

tuscarora dave said:
This is somewhat hypothetical because I haven't sold detailing in quite a while and will be using this product for the fleet of handicap accessible rental vans I maintain.
Click to expand...

Given what I've seen using Beadmaker on coated and bare paint, the size of vans in general and my personal desire for keeping them looking good with minimal effort (especially the roofs), I'd not choose Beadmaker due to the limited longevity it is likely to provide and the lack of self-cleaning it provides in comparison to some other options.

At the bare minimum I'd use something like IGL Premier or similar, perhaps Gyeon CanCoat....something that, in the end, will provide far better performance w/ respect to keeping things clean with little effort. Fleet vehicle use and maintenance has (in my experience) a different set of criteria than your standard Autogeek-ish desire for OCD-like appearance. Fleet vehicles are things that need to look best from 3ft away, always giving a freshly washed appearance (relatively) with little to no maintenance cuz who's got time for that? Small scratches and marring are not as great a concern as keeping a decent appearance as you tool about your town. From what I've seen on Beadmaker so far (and granted it's only been a week) it's more of an instant-gratification product (great gloss, slickness and economy of use) but doesn't have the 'legs' to stand up to the rigors of fleet use without some scheduled maintenance plan.

While more lasting products will certainly be more of a cost issue initially, the savings in time going forward will likely make that a wash. Who knows, perhaps some of the new sprayable SiO2 coating products (Mothers, Meguiars, Adams, etc.) priced more competitively than what has been out there in the past, would suit your needs as well at a lower price point?

Can't say for sure as it's only been a week w/ the Beadmaker on a variety of surfaces but early indications are that it would require more frequent applications to meet the appearance needs of a fleet vehicle, conditions that could be better served by some other products that will require less labor to use/maintain vehicles with. As always, each situation is different and YMMV.
 
All applications were dry. Both cars were hit pretty heavily for the first application (not quite dripping), and then subsequent applications on my car were done with less product - About the same as any other quick detailer I would use.

The silver car was done in temps of about 60 degrees. The black car's first application was about 45 degrees outside, and about 50 degrees in the garage where applied. Follow up applications were in the garage with outside temps in the high 20s, and garage temps in the mid 40s.

I used a gold plush microfiber towels for both "application" and follow up wipes to eliminate streaking.

When you say "something on the paint", what might be there? Both cars were washed (black car with N-914), and again, the LSPs were High Def Sealant and a coating. Although I didn't do a panel wipe, I wouldn't think there would be anything on the surface that would affect application.

Thanks!
 
"From what I've seen on Beadmaker so far (and granted it's only been a week) it's more of an instant-gratification product (great gloss, slickness and economy of use) but doesn't have the 'legs' to stand up to the rigors of fleet use without some scheduled maintenance plan." - BudgetPlan1

This was said way better than I said it, but that's pretty much my view. Thanks for putting the words in my mouth!
 
I have s gallon of BM waiting but haven’t tried it. Probably won’t until weather warms a bit in March. I have no experience to knock it having not used and having already purchased, but reading its pros and cons, it sounds exactly like DG Aquawax to me (which I’ve used extensively).

Similar price (bottle and gallon), very slick, good beading/self-cleaning but not quite up to coating quality. A couple weeks to a month longevity. Nice looking gloss.
 
Klasse Act said:
I mean't thoughts on how it would work. I knew someone probably did this already just didn't hear about it yet.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

I’ve heard it add longevity but v07 is basically a QD so don’t know how that would work


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
C5Longhorn said:
Would you use BM on top of McKee's 37 Hydroblue?
Click to expand...
I would maybe halfway through its life because that stuff is pretty glossy on it's own.

Beadmaker is 1 month max for durability, period.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
 
Re: Video: Trying P&S Bead Maker for the first time.

I have a ceramic coating that I occasionally hit with Hydroblue. I'm wondering if when I wash I should hit it with BM as a drying aid. I currently use Kenotek. May have to give BM a try after I use up.
 
Re: Video: Trying P&S Bead Maker for the first time.

C5Longhorn said:
I have a ceramic coating that I occasionally hit with Hydroblue. I'm wondering if when I wash I should hit it with BM as a drying aid. I currently use Kenotek. May have to give BM a try after I use up.
Click to expand...
Given the water behavior I've seen in my limited experience with BM, its be a step backwards with regards to performance.
 
Re: Video: Trying P&S Bead Maker for the first time.

BudgetPlan1 said:
Given the water behavior I've seen in my limited experience with BM, its be a step backwards with regards to performance.
Click to expand...
Yeah, HydroBlue is going to bead better than Bedmaker for sure, not sure about Kenotek although it's a great product too, more than a QD.

Just thinking out loud here, how did Beadmaker get its name? I mean it beads but nothing crazy, should've been called Gloss Maker

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
 
Re: Video: Trying P&S Bead Maker for the first time.

Klasse Act said:
Just thinking out loud here, how did Beadmaker get its name? I mean it beads but nothing crazy, should've been called Gloss Maker

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

I think someone on sister site mighta mentioned "Slick n Shine" as a more apt description cuz it does both of those, most notably the slick part. The beads themselves are somewhat average.

I just finished coating a vehicle today and with that particular coating product, Beadmaker woulda come in a distant 2nd in gloss as well.

It's (Beadmaker) a quick hit that's fun and economical to use though, I'll give it that although I'd stop short of the exuberance that it seems to elicit in some.

To each their own, however. Wonder if it can maintain the meteoric rise to it's current popularity levels?
 
Re: Video: Trying P&S Bead Maker for the first time.

Klasse Act said:
Yeah, HydroBlue is going to bead better than Bedmaker for sure, not sure about Kenotek although it's a great product too, more than a QD.

Just thinking out loud here, how did Beadmaker get its name? I mean it beads but nothing crazy, should've been called Gloss Maker

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

How much is a gallon of hydro blue vs beadmaker? LOL....................so comaprison? Is that really fair? $79.99 vs. $32.99. Different products, different price ranges, Apples to Oranges..
 
I think it should be called “S&S—-Slick and Shiny”
 
Re: Video: Trying P&S Bead Maker for the first time.

BudgetPlan1 said:
Given the water behavior I've seen in my limited experience with BM, its be a step backwards with regards to performance.
Click to expand...

I think he meant bead maker vs kenotek.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Re: Video: Trying P&S Bead Maker for the first time.

custmsprty said:
How much is a gallon of hydro blue vs beadmaker? LOL....................so comaprison? Is that really fair? $79.99 vs. $32.99. Different products, different price ranges, Apples to Oranges..
Click to expand...
Oh yeah, different products for sure, across the board!

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
 
For me Bead Maker is perfect. I want the gloss and the extra slickness, and I am not concerned about durability because I wash and reapply Bead Maker every week.Yesterday day in 20 degree weather I did a rinseless wash with ECHO2 and then used bead maker with no issues. This morning my car was glossier than yesterday. I do feel the Bead maker makes the car easier to keep clean. I like gloss and Bead maker is perfect for me. I also line Sonax spray& seal and Hydro blue, but Bead Maker to me looks better.
 
Dogma, Beadmaker is glossier and more slick than those products because those are its strong points, the other products emphasize durability and looks next. Like you said Beadmaker is perfect for your needs, perfect. As long as people fully understand that Beadmaker ISN'T about durability it's all good, 1 month max seems to be the rule of thumb.

I can't wait to use Beadmaker when it gets warmer...he, I can't wait for it get warmer.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the 1:1 ratio of Beadmaker/Sonax BSD does on my car. Will it maintain the glossy looks of Beadmaker and add more durability from the BSD or will they work against each other

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top