Washing car before coating?

[Desertnate]

The other stupid part about that is you likely need to wipe the car down anyway if it's been sitting for 24 hours.

Depending on when I started the whole process, there have been times when I finished the polishing step one day and decided to stop working and apply the coating the next. The car sits in the garage the whole time, but I'll purposely wait until the following morning to do the panel wipe. This way I only do one panel wipe and it picke up any random dust that might have settled on the surface over night. It's never so heavy that a good dose of panel wipe isn't enough to safely remove it.

 

[Flash Gordon]

I've seen that Gyeon post before. I struggle to understand why Gyeon would suggest using dish soap when they have dedicated alkaline soaps in their lineup for this task. Also, dish soap leaves a film after use, which would need to be removed with a prep spray, in which case you would have been better to skip the wash and gone straight to the prep spray.

Also, when doing that final prep spray wipe down, you need to be very liberal with the product and allowing some dwell time to work effectively. I see a lot of people lightly mist then wipe immediately, which just isn't effective. I also come across many who think these prep sprays will totally remove wax's and sealants, which is just not the case.

Probably because it works.
Sometimes ppl make things more complicated than they need be

 

[DFB]

Probably because it works.
Sometimes ppl make things more complicated than they need be

Agree, a lot in detailing is way over complicated.

Thing is, with Dawn it doesn't actually remove polishing oils and waxes, by design it leaves behind a film to disguise it. This is why the paint looks flat and doesn't bead after using a dish soap, that film is masking it and in turn gives a false reading. Easy enough assumption to make.

The use of Dawn or other dish soaps comes from a bygone era when high strength alkaline and acidic shampoos didn't really exist. Even so, it was a waste of time. Now that we have these decon soaps readily available, I really don't know why people continue to recommend using dish soap when far more effective products exist.

To me, this isn't complicated at all, you either use the right products, or you use the wrong product designed to do something completely different to its intended purpose. Simple as that. And this isn't my opinion, there are plenty of videos on this subject.

 

[Flash Gordon]

Agree, a lot in detailing is way over complicated.

Thing is, with Dawn it doesn't actually remove polishing oils and waxes, by design it leaves behind a film to disguise it. This is why the paint looks flat and doesn't bead after using a dish soap, that film is masking it and in turn gives a false reading. Easy enough assumption to make.

The use of Dawn or other dish soaps comes from a bygone era when high strength alkaline and acidic shampoos didn't really exist. Even so, it was a waste of time. Now that we have these decon soaps readily available, I really don't know why people continue to recommend using dish soap when far more effective products exist.

To me, this isn't complicated at all, you either use the right products, or you use the wrong product designed to do something completely different to its intended purpose. Simple as that. And this isn't my opinion, there are plenty of videos on this subject.

The myth that Dawn leaves a film is just that (a myth).
I know this because I am a actual detailer who does this for a living and has been practicing this method for decades on 10's of thousands of vehicles.
(And have never had 1 coating job come back due to failure)

You really gotta be careful taking advice from someone who has NO experience running a detailing business and is paid to sell products (like yourself)
In my world ppl like this have NO credibility

The youtubers that claim Dawn is a product that was used in prehistoric times just so happen to have a "special soap" that does the job better I bet??
Lmao...how stupid can you be to buy this kinda crap

 

[DFB]

The myth that Dawn leaves a film is just that (a myth).
I know this because I am a actual detailer who does this for a living and has been practicing this method for decades on 10's of thousands of vehicles.
(And have never had 1 coating job come back due to failure)

You really gotta be careful taking advice from someone who has NO experience running a detailing business and is paid to sell products (like yourself)
In my world ppl like this have NO credibility

The youtubers that claim Dawn is a product that was used in prehistoric times just so happen to have a "special soap" that does the job better I bet??
Lmao...how stupid can you be to buy this kinda crap

Nice take down, would expect nothing else from you at this point. Seeing as we are taking pot shots, well I may as well join the part. Just like your accusations, people should also think twice before taking advise from someone so set in their ways that they can't see that things have advanced from 1980. Just because you have been doing something for 40-years, doesn't mean you've been doing it right for all that time. Have a nice day.

 

[Flash Gordon]

Nice take down, would expect nothing else from you at this point. Seeing as we are taking pot shots, well I may as well join the part. Just like your accusations, people should also think twice before taking advise from someone so set in their ways that they can't see that things have advanced from 1980. Just because you have been doing something for 40-years, doesn't mean you've been doing it right for all that time. Have a nice day.

Well, I did finally give up my chamois in 88, so I'm not totally set in my ways
Good day mate