Water Filteration Kit Worth It????
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Thejoyofdriving
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I dont think most people have to worry about particals that can scratch paint in water. I dont think its worth it. As long as you dry well there will be no water spots.
Test your water and see if you need one. My TDS levels are around 295. And I get bad water spotting. The filter from AG is worthless to me. It only brought the TDS levels down to about 285. So Im going to be getting the 20" CR Spotless system to use with my pressure washer.
FMINUS said:
TDS Meter. Can get them from ebay.
2KLS1 said:
I dont notice a difference using my AG filter. But regular hoses flow a lot more then 4GPM. Wide open, I get 8.5- 9GPM. This is too much even for the 20" CR system. So youll actually have to restrict flow to 4GPM using a nozzle. Im restricting flow using my pressure washer to 2.5GPM.
Im guessing youll have to restrict flow to about 1GPM for the AG system to be useful.
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I've tried a softener filter and it help but didn't become spotless. Instead I got spot that were easier to clean off but that wasn't what I had hoped for. I never measured before and after readings. I think one of the problems with the softener filters is the method of regeneration. I don't think soaking it in a brine solution is sufficient to regenerate. I've considered using a simple drill filter to flush the salt water through the filter in reverse to see if my results improved. Now I just use ONR now and don't worry about spotting. Even before I started using ONR for the entire car I would use it on the top surfaces that would spot the easiest.
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If water in your area is very hard, then consider getting yourself a water filter kit. If not, save your bucks for some good QD.trhland said:
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Water filters, in my opinion, are very handy to wash your vehicle with. I think it comes down to a few key thoughts though. First one that I can think of the top of my head, how much are you willing to spend? Now depending on the answer to that question it will determine the quality of the system you purchase. I've done some digging on filter systems and the absolute best water for washing your vehicle is either Reverse Osmosis or Deionizer water. Now keep in mind that to get a filter system for Reverse Osmosis or Deionizer water will take some coin. I know that a few guys that have there own detailing business use such water (first guy that comes to mind is Dust2Glory and if I'm not mistaken he uses Reverse Osmosis) and they will testify to the system.
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Nica said:
Wouldn't reverse osmosis require a lot of water pressure to get useful amounts of purified water at reasonable pressure?
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Thejoyofdriving said:
Well this is what I've read and concluded after speaking with a few manufactures of some wicked filter systems. Reverse Osmosis is quite the system but from what I've heard a regular garden house and regular presure from a house will do just fine. Like Dan said what needs to be adjusted/regulated is the pressure washer, have to keep your eyes on the flow of the water. It still blows my mind that regular flowing water is plenty for the Reverse Osmosis, I've seen the schematic lay out of how the Reverse Osmosis operates/performes and it's incredable...now that's filtration, it's layers and layers of filtration. Well like I said tough, I'm only sharing what I've read and learned from phone conversations. Soon I'll be confirming what I've learned.
D&D Auto Detailing - That's wicked, you won't be disapointed with it. To date I have not heard anything bad about the CR Spotless system and trust me I've been looking all over the place.
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Nica said:
Thats insane, I would have never guessed that a regular garden hose would have enough pressure to force the water through those ceramic filters. I dont get how that would work???
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Thejoyofdriving said:Thats insane, I would have never guessed that a regular garden hose would have enough pressure to force the water through those ceramic filters. I dont get how that would work???
Well it's all on how the filter system is meant to operate, Reverse Osmosis like literaly like filter upon filter upon filter. From what I was told, lots of presure is not really necesary, you still need pressure but a nice and easy pressue does the trick with the filter I saw. I'm not exactly sure if this is the same for all filter systems, depending on the input pressure that will affect the out put pressure. That's why Dan sayd you need to regulate the pressure out put on your pressure washer. Again, this is only what I've understood from phone conversations and reading...I could be out to lunch as I have not used the filter system yet. When I use it I'll have a better understanding as to how well it operates.
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Using a cation/anion mixture; you get twice the filter life than the mixed bed which comes with the unit. The cationic resin goes in one chamber and the anion resin goes in the other. You won't get the 0 PPM reading that you would get with the mixed bed, but it'll be around 5 PPM (spotless if less than, 25-30PPM)
Input TDS Level Expected Yield
50 PPM 1600 gallons
100 PPM 800 gallons
200 PPM 400 gallons
400 PPM 200 gallons
The unit has a water purity indicator light that, when plugged into any normal (I would advice the use of a Ground fault indicator AC outlet) TFI illuminates when the de-ionization resin is still active, when the light no longer activates, it's time to replace the resin. (Includes two 10-inch cartridges, unit weight 30 Lbs.
CR Spotless http://www.crspotless.com/index
Caution- if you use this filter on its own in a hard water area you may get as few as 5 washes before the filter becomes exhausted, if used in combination with a 30-TDS green filter up to 30 washes can be expected in hard water areas and up to 90 washes in softer water areas.
Input TDS Level Expected Yield
50 PPM 1600 gallons
100 PPM 800 gallons
200 PPM 400 gallons
400 PPM 200 gallons
The unit has a water purity indicator light that, when plugged into any normal (I would advice the use of a Ground fault indicator AC outlet) TFI illuminates when the de-ionization resin is still active, when the light no longer activates, it's time to replace the resin. (Includes two 10-inch cartridges, unit weight 30 Lbs.
CR Spotless http://www.crspotless.com/index
Caution- if you use this filter on its own in a hard water area you may get as few as 5 washes before the filter becomes exhausted, if used in combination with a 30-TDS green filter up to 30 washes can be expected in hard water areas and up to 90 washes in softer water areas.