Water spots on vehicle coated in June 2017

[LSNAutoDetailingLSNAutoDetailing is verified member.]

Gentlemen. How did this thread get so sullied. I am the OP and am very upset that a thread I started took a turn somewhere.

This thread was to discuss options to an issue I had never faced before due to my relocation to Mars... I mean AZ.

Please keep the thread positive, professional, polite and courteous. Act as if your customers read this. You'd be surprised, some of mine do.

Thank you.

Now here is what I did, I washed the vehicle and repolished the areas with spots and applied two coats of CQUartz. Then I waited until it cured and applied and application of reload.

I placed my order with Auto Geek yesterday for all the products that were suggested earlier in the thread and now I have a clean slate to test with when it rains again.


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[PaulMys]

Gentlemen. How did this thread get so sullied. I am the OP and am very upset that a thread I started took a turn somewhere.

This thread was to discuss options to an issue I had never faced before due to my relocation to Mars... I mean AZ.

Please keep the thread positive, professional, polite and courteous. Act as if your customers read this. You'd be surprised, some of mine do.

Thank you.

Now here is what I did, I washed the vehicle and repolished the areas with spots and applied two coats of CQUartz. Then I waited until it cured and applied and application of reload.

I placed my order with Auto Geek yesterday for all the products that were suggested earlier in the thread and now I have a clean slate to test with when it rains again.


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Right on, Paul. I think it was one of those "one bad apple......." scenarios.


Anyway, very interesting info you found out. And as always, I'm a little smarter every time I read one of your posts buddy.

 

[kevincwelch]

I think that what I've found with coatings is that there is a need to wash ASAP after the rain. That and frequent use of toppers to keep the hydrophobic properties strong.

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[glfnaz]

Gentlemen. How did this thread get so sullied. I am the OP and am very upset that a thread I started took a turn somewhere.

This thread was to discuss options to an issue I had never faced before due to my relocation to Mars... I mean AZ.

Please keep the thread positive, professional, polite and courteous. Act as if your customers read this. You'd be surprised, some of mine do.

Thank you.

Now here is what I did, I washed the vehicle and repolished the areas with spots and applied two coats of CQUartz. Then I waited until it cured and applied and application of reload.

I placed my order with Auto Geek yesterday for all the products that were suggested earlier in the thread and now I have a clean slate to test with when it rains again.


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By the way Paul, welcome to AZ. If you need any advice on anything AZ, sight seeing, restaurants, directions, etc, just PM me. Been here 30 years now.

 

[LSNAutoDetailingLSNAutoDetailing is verified member.]

To the OP, what's up Paul? I didn't know you moved to AZ... that's crazy! It's so hot here during summer lol! NH has better weather

Have the water spots etched into your paint? IMO, water spots are inevitable here in AZ esp from monsoon rains. But it's not as bad as water spots from water sprinklers or tap water. Have you tried wiping them off with a waterless wash? I've never had any issues with rain water spots. They always wiped right off using a WW.

Hi Mark! We moved here mid April. Don't know how far they etched, but I got them out today the old fashion way... BOSS G15 and Boss Fast Correcting Cream and a lot of sweat.


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[chet31]

Is there any thing that can prevent water spotting?

Sorry, I was being vague. To complete the thought, if you apply a coating and then immediately have to top it to avoid waterspots, it begs the question, why use the coating in the first place? CarPro Reload was recommended as a topping - Reload is an excellent LSP in it's own right. Use Reload, or another sealant, skip the coating. Perhaps coatings just don't work well in certain climate situations.

 

[RaskyR1]

Gentlemen. How did this thread get so sullied. I am the OP and am very upset that a thread I started took a turn somewhere.

This thread was to discuss options to an issue I had never faced before due to my relocation to Mars... I mean AZ.

Please keep the thread positive, professional, polite and courteous. Act as if your customers read this. You'd be surprised, some of mine do.

Thank you.

Now here is what I did, I washed the vehicle and repolished the areas with spots and applied two coats of CQUartz. Then I waited until it cured and applied and application of reload.

I placed my order with Auto Geek yesterday for all the products that were suggested earlier in the thread and now I have a clean slate to test with when it rains again.


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Sorry, Paul. I think it derailed with my comment but I like to correct misinformation when I see it.

 

[RaskyR1]

So I was working on a clients car last night and was reminded of this thread when I went to remove some water spots from his coated vehicle...

This car was coated with CQuartz Finest 23 months ago. It was in for a wash, decon (IronX/TarX), removal of light waters spots from a sprinkler, and interior touch up. The video is after doing all the aforementioned and the final rinse. MDR was used to remove the water spots. As you can see in the video, after the use of a water spot remover on a nearly 2 yr old coating, it's still very much alive.

MDR applied with a damp MF towel, allowed to dwell, and lightly agitated with the MF towel.

 

[SWETM]

So I spoke with a water expert today. Meaning he had some credentials and could explain the situation. Essentially as the temperature rises, water will maintain more salts or "electro static charge of free radicals". This coupled by the monsoon season where our storms are a mix of severe rain storms preceded by dust storms, the heated water plus a mix of rich minerals of zinc, copper, iron etc, including the thick industrial fallout in our valley due to smog makes a toxic mix.

Wow... I got an education... so the solution is, I need to find a house with a 3 car garage, and quickly get on the vehicles if they have beading water droplets.

The irony is, I noticed vehicles without any protection don't have beeding, thus they don't have water spots. Isn't that a counter argument for protection. They will however experience clearcoat failure in about six months.

I ordered a series of products. McKee's 37 water spot remover, Essence Plus and CarPro Spotless. I'll use this car as a test subject for all three and document the results.

I'm glad I'm digging into this problem and it's on my POV. Experience gained is knowledge.
My Honda Fit is the "dog car" and family UTE.
Just glad the Mustang's are tucked away.

Lastly if a quality coating can't stand up to AZ, the best case is HD Speed on the horizontal panels every few months topped with ReLoad.




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A thought about what the rain contains is if it would be worth to test some iron removal? This is if the spots sits on the clearcoat and get oxidized(rust). Even so you can gain to do a iron removal a short time after the moonsuns. And still it will be necessary to do water spots and mineral deposits removal before it can etching the clearcoat.