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I have more than one business lol
"Waterless Wash"
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Setec Astronomy
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You have described a two-step waterless wash system ("the invention") in some detail. If you actually are interested in patenting it, there are protocols involved with that, and I'm trying to help you. But apparently you weren't serious and this is just a joke to you. And then you wonder why some members respond to you the way they do.
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Oh relax
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guys, there is no need to be rude about all of this. I have started businesses before but I have never merchandised. That was the whole point of this, to see what "car guys" thought of a two product system for waterless wash. I did not anticipate some of the rude behavior, but I understand the nature of forums. In regards to a patent, being I have not revealed any of the components of the spray that is a non issue. Still just testing and trying to decide if it is worth the investment. Regardless, I appreciate the input, and being I have never posted on forums before, I will be more careful in the future. I figure y'all are going to be the harshest individuals to sell to, so it should be cake from there on out.
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I wouldn't be interested in a 2 step waterless wash. I'm guessing there would be 2 liquids? A heavier cleaner and maybe a finishing cleaner? If I had to do that, I would just pressure wash first and use a regular waterless wash, a rinseless, or use a 2BM.
Honestly, IMHO, there are so many good waterless wash products out now, I likely wouldn't be interested in trying a new one either. It's really hard to beat UWW+ or GD's IUDJ for their versatility.
Honestly, IMHO, there are so many good waterless wash products out now, I likely wouldn't be interested in trying a new one either. It's really hard to beat UWW+ or GD's IUDJ for their versatility.
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I think you problem will be the extra step. Even John Smith going to Autozone has the choice for Waterless and Rinseless washes in 1-step. It's going to be tough sell IMO.
I can see the future of car washes even for a regular guy being WW or RW as more big names start to push their products out.
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I can see the future of car washes even for a regular guy being WW or RW as more big names start to push their products out.
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Thanks for the input! I would be selling it as concentrate in 1oz packets meant for 32oz bottles as to keep the buying price low. Maybe 2 packets of the heavy cleaner and 5 of the light finishing spray and wax. But I agree I have a lot of competition out there! Just always searching for extra income.
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Yes I do agree that many would be turned off by that. I just figure that I would rather have two sprays that perform much better than a one step, but I know many won't agree. Thanks for the input!
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You do realize that Wolfgang sealant you used has a 6 month durability right?
Beading is from the sealant whether your comment of 3 weeks and 7 washes was sarcastic or not. The picture should be in a review for the sealant not your product advertisement.
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allenk4
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Hanging back...watching this thread.
Still wondering about the "patent" component.
"Anyone else create and patent their own detailing products or cleaners?"
What exactly are you considering obtaining a "patent" on?
-The chemicals?
-The process?
-The combination ratio of the chemicals?
-The name of the process?
-The name of the product?
Still wondering about the "patent" component.
"Anyone else create and patent their own detailing products or cleaners?"
What exactly are you considering obtaining a "patent" on?
-The chemicals?
-The process?
-The combination ratio of the chemicals?
-The name of the process?
-The name of the product?
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Nah, not going to move forward with it. Not worth it
allenk4
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It may be worth it.
Barry Meguiar's Grandfather started out selling furniture polish that they bottled in the garage.
Don't let the Forum shut you down.
If you have a great product or innovative process that we all can benefit from...I am cheering for you.
Patent is a flexible thing. I am in medical device sales and companies routinely patent "new devices" based on a 510k extension that demonstrates equivalent to an existing FDA approved, patented device. Just because someone else has a similar product does not mean that you do not have a reasonable avenue to obtaining a patent on your idea/product.
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Indeed. Some patents are built upon other patents. A good idea is successful due more to marketing than the idea or a patent. The patent just gives you some protection but a clever person can make changes to get around it and you will need to be willing to have lawyers to defend against it. It may not be cost effective since losses are often based upon how much the copier has sold.
How else can you take an off the shelf product (think of a putty like material that seal cracks), change the name to something simplistic, make a clever commercial, and then sell it for a lot more than the off the shelf product.
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IMO enthusiasts are the only ones interested in multiple products. The average consumer is not interested in 2 bottles, let alone 2 packets he/she needs to mix into bottles they have to buy separately. The feedback I've seen so far in this thread leads me to believe your going to have to show some drastically improved benefit to get people to step up from their traditional waterless wash. Remember waterless wash is already a very small percentage of car wash sold.
The packet concept has been tried and failed multiple times, most recently by rainx for car wash. Not to say it won't work, but it's a uphill battle to get people to understand.
The packet concept has been tried and failed multiple times, most recently by rainx for car wash. Not to say it won't work, but it's a uphill battle to get people to understand.