Waver for engine cleaning?

BrianJM

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Hey guys, I was talking to my old boss the other day and he said he has his customers sign a waver stating that his shop isn't responsible for engines running rough or any other complication after a engine detail. I was wondering if any of y'all do that?
 
•IMO:
-That's a harbinger of a Business
being uninsured/underinsured;
and/or: untrained/undertrained...

-with either scenario being powerful
deterrents for potential Customers.


Bob
 
•IMO:
-That's a harbinger of a Business
being uninsured/underinsured;
and/or: untrained/undertrained...

-with either scenario being powerful
deterrents for potential Customers.


Bob

Yeah I can see from a customers pov it could seem that way. I know for a fact they are professionals over there at the same time I have no idea about the specifics of they're insurance policy. I could imagine that there are a number of negative variables to what could potentially go wrong with a engine detail. From a customer making fictional accusations to get over or actually something going wrong.
 
I don't do engine at all for a 200.00 detail,is not worth 1000.00 repair.writing or not and you have to be a idiot to sign a waiver.
 
I don't do engine at all for a 200.00 detail,is not worth 1000.00 repair.writing or not and you have to be a idiot to sign a waiver.

Yeah I hear ya man. Def wouldn't throw a engine detail in with a 200 dollar detail. I know they get a lot of business. Not sure how the form is presented either.
 
I paid out 3500.00 on a s600 for a stupid engine cleaning,even with all the covering and precautions it takes.just not worth it on a 800.00 detail. Some people will disagree but there time will come if they do a lot of production detailing.oh look my car and engine is spotless but it deosnt run lol.
 
I have no idea about the specifics
of they're insurance policy.

I could imagine that there are a number of
negative variables to what could potentially
go wrong with a engine detail.
Not sure how the form is presented either.
Wait a minute...
Didn't you used to work for him?
Didn't you ever do an engine detail
when you worked there?

I was talking to my old boss the other day

and he said he has his customers
sign a waver stating that his shop
isn't responsible for

engines running rough
or any other complication
after a engine detail.


Bob
 
Some of the later models with all the plastic covering you can just wipe it down,takes time and ruins rags but for 25 to 50 dollars I personally don't want to get involved.
 
Wait a minute...
Didn't you used to work for him?
Didn't you ever do an engine detail
when you worked there?




Bob

Yeah of course I did plenty. Never had a problem. But now that I'm independent and hearing all these horror stories it's different.
 
Some of the later models with all the plastic covering you can just wipe it down,takes time and ruins rags but for 25 to 50 dollars I personally don't want to get involved.

Has you not offering the service ever impact you sales?
 
Do yourself a favor and don't do engines case closed.and good luck on your venture in auto detailing.
 
No not at all,anyone with common sense will decline if you explain the risk factor.They actually like you being upfront and honest with them.just had a customer ask me on sat with a Tahoe with 200k on it to clean engine cause there selling it.
 
It is THAT risky to do an engine cleaning?

I did one for a friend yesterday, went well. But now you guys are scaring me. Maybe I should stop offering the service.
 
With the way people are now days, I could see someone bringing a car in with issues to get a detail in hopes that it won't start afterwards so they can get you to pay for the repair.

I've done them all my car owning life, on my cars and never had an issue. It only takes once on someone else's car though.
 
It is THAT risky to do an engine cleaning?

I did one for a friend yesterday, went well. But now you guys are scaring me. Maybe I should stop offering the service.
If you're worried that much...
try one of the engine cleaning methods
discussed in the below articles.

(The "cosmetic" method, for example,
seems rather benign.)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/67749-how-clean-engine-compartment.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/98122-how-do-cosmetic-engine-detailing.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/50352-how-detail-your-engine-like-professional.html


Bob
 

I took evey precautions. Did not use a pressure washer, covered altenator and sensitive stuff, used a blower to remove all pools of water.

But yeah, I guess the cosmetic methode would be safer.
 
Do yourself a favor and don't do engines case closed.and good luck on your venture in auto detailing.

This. I don't offer engine detailing. If you want it done, you'll have to find someone else. Not worth the hassle for me.
 
For engine details, I explain to the customers there are risks. If the car is 10 years or older I recommend they do not do it. What I tell them is that seals and gaskets Harden and fail over time. So the older the engine is, the more chances are water could end up in places it should not be and that no matter how cautious we are, there is no way to know if a problem will occur. If they decide to do the engine detail regardless, I have a waiver that I get them to sign. If you want a copy just send me a private message and I will send it to you.

I think it's really important you have a talk with the Customer and make him understand there are risks to engine detailing. It's not a matter of how skillfull or Professional you are, you have to use water and there are a lot of wires in an engine bay. So if any seal is defective, there is pretty much no chance you can avoid having water on it. Then let them decide what they want to do. I charge 40$ do detail the engine, so I am not interested in being liable for issues I cannot prevent. Only had a problem once and it was on my own car. Took a week for the water to dry and engine start working correctly. In my case it was water on the spark plugs because the seals at the top of the spark plugs wells had failled. It gave me engines misfires for roughly a week even after I blew tried the spark plugs wells. I used dielectric grease and i helped a lot but still took days to correct the problem. I have read worse problems usually with water going Inside parts that are not designed to handle it. So ya, I do make sure the client understands that.
 
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