Wax for white car

A bit on a tangent, but I've never heard of darkening for white paint - how exactly would that work? I've always just gone for mirror-like gloss with white.
 
HellDemon said:
Oh wow, fuzion really must be worth the expensive price haha. I'll definitely put it on my list of waxes to buy! But as for now, I won't be buying it just yet
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fyi, if you buy the full size fuzion and ship it to Toronto, as an international customer, you will get both your fuzion in the wooden box and the refill.

If you know someone that wants fuzion, you can then split the cost with them. Makes it a bit easier to swallow the high initial cost. Flip for the box or something. The large size also sometimes goes on sale during special periods.
 
umi000 said:
A bit on a tangent, but I've never heard of darkening for white paint - how exactly would that work? I've always just gone for mirror-like gloss with white.
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To be honest, I have no idea how it works, but I've definitely seen it discussed in the past; along with the fact that if waxes can "darken" black or darker paints, it should be able to for lighter paints as well, no? I prefer the deep, wet look as opposed to the super shiny route people normally go for white; and hopefully I can find a wax that makes a noticable difference. Otherwise, I guess I'd have no choice but to make my car a super highly-glossy machine haha.

embolism said:
fyi, if you buy the full size fuzion and ship it to Toronto, as an international customer, you will get both your fuzion in the wooden box and the refill.

If you know someone that wants fuzion, you can then split the cost with them. Makes it a bit easier to swallow the high initial cost. Flip for the box or something. The large size also sometimes goes on sale during special periods.
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That's actually not a bad idea, especially since it at least softens the blow of trying it out but instead paying $50 to only get to use it 4 times haha. I'll definitely consider that an option; but even then, it still puts the wax at $100+ per 8oz ($180 + $30 shipping + $10 handling fee + 13% taxes), so I'd like to find an alternative (for the time being).
 
HellDemon said:
To be honest, I have no idea how it works, but I've definitely seen it discussed in the past; along with the fact that if waxes can "darken" black or darker paints, it should be able to for lighter paints as well, no? I prefer the deep, wet look as opposed to the super shiny route people normally go for white; and hopefully I can find a wax that makes a noticable difference. Otherwise, I guess I'd have no choice but to make my car a super highly-glossy machine haha.



That's actually not a bad idea, especially since it at least softens the blow of trying it out but instead paying $50 to only get to use it 4 times haha. I'll definitely consider that an option; but even then, it still puts the wax at $100+ per 8oz ($180 + $30 shipping + $10 handling fee + 13% taxes), so I'd like to find an alternative (for the time being).
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I've seen darkening on darker-colored cars, sometimes to a surprising extent (most recently in this review by Al); and I myself also prefer a the warm deep glow of carnaubas on my solid red car. I guess I'm a bit confused, because wouldn't a darker white just be, um, kind of grey? I hope I'm not coming across as argumentative - I really don't understand how a darkening effect would look, or even be possible, on white.

You should get a lot more than 4 uses out of a 3 oz jar of wax - I've used my 100 ml (around 3.3 oz) jar of SNH twice, but it looks almost untouched - I'd not be surprised if I got fifteen-plus applications out of it.
 
umi000 said:
I've seen darkening on darker-colored cars, sometimes to a surprising extent (most recently in this review by Al); and I myself also prefer a the warm deep glow of carnaubas on my solid red car. I guess I'm a bit confused, because wouldn't a darker white just be, um, kind of grey? I hope I'm not coming across as argumentative - I really don't understand how a darkening effect would look, or even be possible, on white.

You should get a lot more than 4 uses out of a 3 oz jar of wax - I've used my 100 ml (around 3.3 oz) jar of SNH twice, but it looks almost untouched - I'd not be surprised if I got fifteen-plus applications out of it.
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Mmm I guess what I'm looking for is something that instead of making my car reflect white light (i.e. glossy), for it to instead give a darker reflection; the kind of reflection that is achieved by dark vehicles and not lighter. And I guess the "shade of grey" is what I'm looking for, since having those kinds of reflections is only possible on a darker car. I've seen a couple of really nice white cars do that, so I know its not totally impossible; but it would be difficult to find a wax that could noticably do that to white paint, although fuzion seems to be the forums answer to that haha.

And 15 applications isnt too bad actually. How do you like SNH? I hear that it isn't as slick or nice looking as SN, but rather the durability makes it that much better.
 
umi000 said:
I've seen darkening on darker-colored cars, sometimes to a surprising extent (most recently in this review by Al); and I myself also prefer a the warm deep glow of carnaubas on my solid red car. I guess I'm a bit confused, because wouldn't a darker white just be, um, kind of grey? I hope I'm not coming across as argumentative - I really don't understand how a darkening effect would look, or even be possible, on white.

You should get a lot more than 4 uses out of a 3 oz jar of wax - I've used my 100 ml (around 3.3 oz) jar of SNH twice, but it looks almost untouched - I'd not be surprised if I got fifteen-plus applications out of it.
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Only a black or a grey wax could make white paint look grey. A red wax will make it darker, slightly reddish. A blue wax will make it deeper, slightly bluish. Sort of like a very watered down watercolor wash over white paper.
 
Blackthorn One said:
Only a black or a grey wax could make white paint look grey. A red wax will make it darker, slightly reddish. A blue wax will make it deeper, slightly bluish. Sort of like a very watered down watercolor wash over white paper.
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Yeah that's my basic understanding of it as well. Dodo actually did a test on whether or not the colours of their waxes changed color on white paint; how coloured/strong their wax is on colouring effect, I don't know, but there was a difference after maybe 4 coats (that's alot!)? But the overall effect is still subtle; you wouldn't really notice it unless you realize the reflections are more vivid or you did a 50-50 comparison. That's why I'm not immediately jumping on the dodo waxes, but instead looking for alternatives that might do a better job at it
 
HellDemon said:
Mmm I guess what I'm looking for is something that instead of making my car reflect white light (i.e. glossy), for it to instead give a darker reflection; the kind of reflection that is achieved by dark vehicles and not lighter. And I guess the "shade of grey" is what I'm looking for, since having those kinds of reflections is only possible on a darker car. I've seen a couple of really nice white cars do that, so I know its not totally impossible; but it would be difficult to find a wax that could noticably do that to white paint, although fuzion seems to be the forums answer to that haha.

And 15 applications isnt too bad actually. How do you like SNH? I hear that it isn't as slick or nice looking as SN, but rather the durability makes it that much better.
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I haven't used SN, so I can't compare, but I do like the SNH - it has a fair bit of gloss, but also seems to add some depth and warmth - a very nice meld of sealant and wax properties. Durability is also very good - better than 845, in my experience.
 
Any other recommendations?? I'm going to be making my order in maybe 2-3 days! :D
 
I use wolfgang dgps on my white xterra. It gives it a really nice look and I find it to last much longer than some waxes (obviously because it's a sealant). It just makes your life a little easier because it lasts longer but takes roughly the same amount of time to apply. just my .02
 
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