wax or polish first?

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I am going to be detailing this Jaguar for some people. They want me to wash and wax it. Now I am just using what I have so I can run out and then start odering stuff from here. I got some Meguiars cleaner wax and Meguiars show car glaze polish. Could I apply both of those onto the car and if so, which one do I use first?
 
always polish first, polish is made to clean your paint and to take off scratches and even probably wax you had from before. After your done with all that then your Portect it with a wax.
 
Quote:I am going to be detailing this Jaguar for some people. They want me to wash and wax it.

This is a wash and wax NOT a detail -Detailed is a term used to describe the process of cleaning, polishing and applying protection to vehicle surfaces. Implying that every part of the vehicle has been cleaned and protected from the elements; including, the engine compartment, trunk, wheels and fender wells, tyres, paint film and glass surfaces (convertible top) and the entire interior.
 
Yes I know what detailing is, I was just asking when I wax the car do I use polish first before the wax or the other way around. They want their car completely done interior, exterior, etc...
 
OK...First off the Glaze is not going to do any corrections....just add gloss and fill what imperfections on the paint that it can...now the cleaner wax is going to negate the effects of the glaze ..the cleaners are going to remove the glaze effects...you need a pure wax on top of the glaze to retain the effects of the glaze...

Now you can use the wax first and then the glaze..BUT the glaze has a short life span when on top of the wax....it will deplete in the rain or wash or just in time sitting there...

Show car glaze is what it is...used to apply to a car right before a show to enhance the gloss factor and give it the rich deep look...it has no durability...as said a rain or was depletes it...and also exposure to the sun...

so in reality any defects on the car will show up again in a short time...

AL
 
glazes commonly are used prior to waxes, just remember in this instance you are using a cleaner wax and thus it will remove the glaze. Might be worth skipping and just using the AIO cleaner wax.
 
IMO you shouldnt be touching people cars if you have no idea what you are doing.

Might sound harsh but its the truth.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
glazes commonly are used prior to waxes, just remember in this instance you are using a cleaner wax and thus it will remove the glaze. Might be worth skipping and just using the AIO cleaner wax.

:iagree: :iagree: :cheers:
 
TOGWT said:
This is a wash and wax NOT a detail -Detailed is a term used to describe the process of cleaning, polishing and applying protection to vehicle surfaces. Implying that every part of the vehicle has been cleaned and protected from the elements; including, the engine compartment, trunk, wheels and fender wells, tyres, paint film and glass surfaces (convertible top) and the entire interior.
I disagree. You can do a detail on the exterior. You can do a detail on the interior. You can do a detail in the engine bay. You can detail different parts of the car. A detail doesn't always mean every mm of the car. People bring cars to detailers to detaile certin parts of the car. It isn't always the whole thing.

It isn't a term just used for the complete cleaning of a vehicle inside, out and under. Plus, in part of the definition it mentions polishing and in another it just says cleaning and protecting. So, washing and waxing would be a detail acording to part of the definition.

Besides, you knew what he meant.

I agree though, he shouldn't really be detailing someone elses car if he has to ask such basic questions.
 
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Ok coupe and 67customs, when did you start detailing? And when you worked on your first detail, was it on a car? I'm starting out like most other people on a car. I did detailing up north at a semi dealership. Now I didn't use as good of products as everybody else uses but what I used worked. I know how to detail but I never put 2 kind of waxes on right after another. It was just a question, I didn't know it was going to be a put down.:mad:
 
97Avenger said:
Ok coupe and 67customs, when did you start detailing? And when you worked on your first detail, was it on a car? I'm starting out like most other people on a car. I did detailing up north at a semi dealership. Now I didn't use as good of products as everybody else uses but what I used worked. I know how to detail but I never put 2 kind of waxes on right after another. It was just a question, I didn't know it was going to be a put down.:mad:
I started when I was 16. I had to completely restore a '83 F-150 if I wanted something nice to drive. I sanded it down to the metal and worked my way back up. It started with body work. I cut and welded rust spots and put filler in bad areas. I blocked it and the primered it. I then did a SS paint job. I had guidance from my dad, but the work was done by me. If you saw it today, you would never guess that a rookie painted it. I spent lots of time watching my uncle work his magic to learn techniques. I took my time and it turned out awesome. My detailing work started with the other areas. I cleaned up the undercarriage and the engine bay. I couldn't afford new stuff for the interior, but I had to make it look just as nice as the exterior. So, I got to work. I really enjoyed it and new I could make some money while having fun. But I wasn't going to go out and work on people's cars after doing one thing. So, I practiced on my dad's mail car. You couldn't make that thing look any worse.lol Next was my moms beater car. Then I worked on their nicer cars. I started doing work for my family members. I worked on the crapiest things I could find and worked my way on up to nicer stuff. I did everything by hand. I didn't wory about perfecting the paint or anything. You could make that look decent enough with glazes. I mainly worried about getting the interior clean and paying attention to little things. I was making chump money though, so I knew I needed to step my game up. I then bought another car to work on a couple of years later. I bought a cheap rotary and started practicing with it. The rest is history.

The moral of the story is... I practiced on beater cars first. I didn't jump in the ring with Ali for my first round.

I wasn't trying to put you down. I was just suggesting that you might not be ready to take on money making jobs for people if you haven't learned much about the trade. The dealer you worked at must not have been a good learning experience if you don't know wheather to polish or wax first. That is elementary stuff my dear Watson.
 
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My dealership never really wanted to go into waxing. All they wanted is for you to degrease the engine, frame, wash the outside and clean the inside. But I do detailing on my cars ever since I was 16 too. I started with an 89 Caravan and worked my way up just like everyone else. I didn't have any to show me how to detail, I just learned as I went. So I am pretty confident I can do this car. And sorry for getting upset. No hard feelings.
 
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97Avenger said:
Ok coupe and 67customs, when did you start detailing? And when you worked on your first detail, was it on a car? I'm starting out like most other people on a car. I did detailing up north at a semi dealership. Now I didn't use as good of products as everybody else uses but what I used worked. I know how to detail but I never put 2 kind of waxes on right after another. It was just a question, I didn't know it was going to be a put down.:mad:


I started learning on my OWN car, thats where just about everyone learns how to detail first. It is a bad idea to try to learn on someone elses car, its just a bad idea.

Im sorry but i am having a hard time swallowing that you have any experiance at all. If you did you would not be asking such basic questions.
 
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