wax sealant wax

[cuvette]

Hello
first time to the forum and glad to be in. I would like to know if I put a sealant on my car can I put a finishing carnauba wax a few weeks after.
regards

MICHEL

 

[joe.p]

Hello
first time to the forum and glad to be in. I would like to know if I put a sealant on my car can I put a finishing carnauba wax a few weeks after.
regards

MICHEL

Welcome:The answer to your question is yes,but you wont have to wait that long 24 -36 hrs is par for a sealant to cure. you can put carnauba over a sealant as a rule of thumb, but it isn't sugested to put sealant over a carnauba.

 

[98bmw323is]

what if when you let the car sit over night after applying sealant alot of dust forms on it. Should you re wash the car then apply the carnauba wax, or use something like a california duster to remove the dust ?

 

[MachB5]

what if when you let the car sit over night after applying sealant alot of dust forms on it. Should you re wash the car then apply the carnauba wax, or use something like a california duster to remove the dust ?

i just use the CD or perhaps some QEW or something like it. The CD is my choice though b/c I am always paranoid of new wash swirls.

 

[Sherman8r44]

what if when you let the car sit over night after applying sealant alot of dust forms on it. Should you re wash the car then apply the carnauba wax, or use something like a california duster to remove the dust ?

After sitting overnight, a "waterless wash" (QD that excels at cleaning) like Poorboy's Spray and Wipe or Chemical Guys Pro Detailer should be perfect for removing light dust.

 

[roaringlion]

I use a selant every time i detail my car (try every week wheather permitting) i use the DC wet-look i also would like to know if i can use the colour boost wax on it (in the states its colourX), so your saying its ok to wax after using a sealant?

 

[ScottB]

I use a selant every time i detail my car (try every week wheather permitting) i use the DC wet-look i also would like to know if i can use the colour boost wax on it (in the states its colourX), so your saying its ok to wax after using a sealant?

you can always use a "pure carnuba" over a sealant as a topper. You cannot however do it the otherway around as sealants do NOT like to adhere to oils. The product ColorX however is more like a cleaner wax (I believe it contains Kaolin like NXT) and thus would remove some or all of the sealant. You will need to move to P21S, Pinnacle Sig or Souveran, DP Max Wax, Poorboys Nattys, Megs 26, or even Mothers 100% carnuba paste.

 

[roaringlion]

you can always use a "pure carnuba" over a sealant as a topper. You cannot however do it the otherway around as sealants do NOT like to adhere to oils. The product ColorX however is more like a cleaner wax (I believe it contains Kaolin like NXT) and thus would remove some or all of the sealant. You will need to move to P21S, Pinnacle Sig or Souveran, DP Max Wax, Poorboys Nattys, Megs 26, or even Mothers 100% carnuba paste.

"Pure carnuba"? and why high tech yellow wax?

 

[ScottB]

"Pure carnuba"? and why high tech yellow wax?

I use the term loosely, as they really is no way to spread pure carnuba on a finish. That said, the waxes I offered above have no cleaning ability and thus will enhance the look of the car without removing the sealant.

 

[roaringlion]

I use the term loosely, as they really is no way to spread pure carnuba on a finish. That said, the waxes I offered above have no cleaning ability and thus will enhance the look of the car without removing the sealant.

So you would recomend using megs (we in aus dont get the other products people have mentioned in here) carnuba and/or high tech yellow wax? what about NXT wax, could i use that over the top of the DC wet-look sealant?

 

[ScottB]

So you would recomend using megs (we in aus dont get the other products people have mentioned in here) carnuba and/or high tech yellow wax? what about NXT wax, could i use that over the top of the DC wet-look sealant?

NXT ... sorry but no. I has calcified kaolin in it which is a light abrasive. As such it will remove or reduce some/all of the sealant below it. Megs High Tech is a good choice, and you might still be able to find a couple cans of Megs #16 (blue tin can) as it was considered by most the best carnuba products from Megs. Unfortunately it was discontinued here due to VOC's ever increasing regulations.

 

[roaringlion]

Thank you champ, would you mind if i post this sibject in the megs forum? just to see what others might say and might put another spin on the whole thing (as i like getting as much info as possible beofre trying)

 

[nshaw65]

After you put carnuba wax over a sealant, how do you remove the carnuba later to apply more sealant?

 

[Neothin]

you either have to wait a couple of weeks for the carnauba to deteriorate or use a paint cleaner to strip everything off and start from scratch.

 

[joe.p]

NXT ... sorry but no. I has calcified kaolin in it which is a light abrasive. As such it will remove or reduce some/all of the sealant below it. Megs High Tech is a good choice, and you might still be able to find a couple cans of Megs #16 (blue tin can) as it was considered by most the best carnuba products from Megs. Unfortunately it was discontinued here due to VOC's ever increasing regulations.

I have seen megs #16 here in there. real quick Is it a decent wax.(dont want to get off topic)

 

[MachB5]

After you put carnuba wax over a sealant, how do you remove the carnuba later to apply more sealant?

You can't. Like someone said, strip it with cleaner and start over or bust out the polish and buffers.

Sealant is designed to chemically bond with the paint. that is why it should be applied sans glaze. when you top it with carnauba, you're basically making the carnie conversion until you decide to strip it all off again because the sealant will not bond anymore (and it really won't improve the looks of anything either like a carnie will).

 

[pt91]

After you put carnuba wax over a sealant, how do you remove the carnuba later to apply more sealant?

I believe that an ISO/Water mixture sprayed and removed with a MF will remove the wax. It may remove some sealant as well.

 

[Neothin]

(Don't shoot me for going against the common knowledge here)

I don't know how effective the ISO/water mixture really is. Just because I felt like experimenting, I threw some natty's blue on top of the car a while back and let it set up for a day. They next afternoon I took a spray bottle of ISO/water and wiped down the hood. Then I took the hose and sprayed the hood. I noticed no difference in the beading characteristics whatsoever. anyone know whats going on?

 

[pt91]

Maybe it was so clean it still beaded

Now I am wondering what the main ingredient is in products like wax buster or the griot's version.

 

[ScottB]

I have seen megs #16 here in there. real quick Is it a decent wax.(dont want to get off topic)

Some considered it the best carnuba product to have ever come out of Megs, unfortunately it was discontinued (VOC) and cannot be found anywhere but on closeout in the US. Pinnacle Souveran looks better, but Megs was selling for around 20.00 a can before closeout.