Wax won't last ...

If you like water beading, then maybe try the Duragloss #111 Clear Coat Polish.


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I have only used Black Label Diamonad Surface Coating on my wife's SLK350 since we puchased this car and it beads water like a son of a gun. Washes and dries as easy and fast as anything I've ever maintained.

Paint always looks great and this car is parked out side 24x7


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BostonDetails said:
It's not the wax! I used to park under a tree at my old apartment...

The water doesn't bead because of the dirt, debris, etc. coming off the tree with the rain. It doesn't allow the water surface tension to do it's thing.
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I'd agree with the above. The tree acts like a dirt inducer to the water drops flowing through it.

Also, Meguiar's #20 is a really good product that doesn't get a lot of attention. Easy to use, light cleaning ability which makes it perfect for a daily driver pakred outside, wipes off super easy and lasts a long time and beads water really well.


We used it on this old truck....

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M20 Polymer Sealant is a very light cleaner/wax, it's mostly for removing topical defects like oxidation, dirt staining and embedded dirt as well as all types of surface impurities. It does have a little bit though for removing fine or shallow swirls and scratches and the larger throw or orbit stroke length of the Rupes Bigfoot polishers leverages and maximizes this light swirl removing ability to clean this paint up in one-step.

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Thanks! I like the idea of not having to redo with another coat of something else and the idea of having next weekend free!
 
BostonDetails said:
It's not the wax! I used to park under a tree at my old apartment...

The water doesn't bead because of the dirt, debris, etc. coming off the tree with the rain. It doesn't allow the water surface tension to do it's thing.
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:iagree:

one thing to bear in mind is that waxes are absorbent, whereas sealants are repellant (generally speaking). a good comparison would probably be between a bullet proof vest (wax) compared to bullet proof glass (sealant). one absorbs, the other deflects, but both protect.
what that means in terms of beading is that debris particles that impact your vehicle will cling to a layer of wax and prevent it from beading relatively quickly. However, this does not mean that the wax is no longer offering protection. its still there underneath, doing its job, but because its a little dirty water reacts differently to it. Because sealants are (as a rule) more repellant, they don't tend to retain dirt particles in the same way, and so bead for longer.
 
Imo, your paint is contaminated and the contamination is not allowing the wax pr sealant to bond correctly to the paint.

After washing your car, wear a sandwich bag on your hand amd feel the paint. If it feels gritty like sandpaper, use a clay bar.

I live in Pakistan where there is so much dust, I have to wash my car everyday. None of my cars have a garage to park in and my car is parked infront of the beach all day. I still have collenite 915 beading and sheeting relentlessly after 2 months.

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Niblick: That makes sense — except I used a sealant on my first attempt.
Omar: The paint feels really smooth. No sense of contamination.
 
Yes its the tree. Happens to me everytime if I parked under a tree during a heavy rain too.

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Wadey said:
I have a 12 year old silver Tacoma that sits outside under a magnolia tree. Each year around this time of year, my objective is to get some protection on it for winter...

Several weeks ago I clayed the hood and followed with Megs ultimate compound, polish and wax. I was disappointed that, after a rain and less than two weeks, the hood was no longer beading.

I read a bunch of threads here and two weeks ago I did some more Meg's ult. compound work (attempting to fix some water spot etching) followed again by ult polish then tried collonite 485. Initially, the water beading was stunning. It's two weeks later and it rained last night. Water was pooling on the hood this morning. Next to no beading. I washed it today and the lack of protection was obvious when the water hit it.

I don't know what's going on, but I'd like to get some lasting protection on there soon. Any thoughts/suggestions?
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Simply stated, in many years of using most waxes available, no natural wax be it carnauba, silicone, oil based or what ever will not last any length of time unless you layer it. A cleaner wax will not layer but a natural wax that has no cleaner will layer, if given time to cure or harden between coats. The Meg's Ultimate Wax is a polymer and not natural but even it will last longer if you layer it.

When you polished after Ult. you removed it and put one coat of 485 natural wax which is not going to last that long, outside, under a tree, with contaminates, in the weather and sun. In my opinion after years of experimenting with dozens of different waxes and coatings the only products that will give extended performance with one application are the new coatings, ceramic, glass, etc. Even they will look deeper and last longer when other waxes and polymers are layered on top.

Some will say that layering does not happen but it does, and the more coats applied the deeper the gloss and the wetter the finish looks, and the longer the finish lasts outside in the elements. If you try applying extra coats like I just described you can see for yourself that layering works. It takes some effort but I think it is well worth the results obtained.
 
Just go with a sealant like Wolfgang 3.0 or Blackfire Wet Diamond or step up to a coating.
 
sealants or waxes will yield the same result when the dirt hits the car you won't get the beading. It sucks. I've been there. if you're at an apartment request a new spot. If you own your own house...cut the tree down. We all know the environment is secondary to a shiny car.
 
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