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Soakin' Joe's said:
I also take that as an insult
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I'm sorry.




Soakin' Joe's said:
Your comment basically is saying that me along with almost every true professional detailer out there that we have been wasting our money.
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Mindflux never said anything remotely close that would/could be deemed disrespectful toward another member of this forum. He never said terry towels were better than MF's, he simply stated that terry towels were the towels of choice before MF's came into existence. I have been washing & drying cars for about 28 years. Ask yourself this: What do you think I used to dry my car in 1982??? I don't think blowing on it would work too well :laughing:

I cannot see anywhere in Mindflux's posts where he insinuted that anyone whom uses MF's are wasting their money
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Before MF's, cotton terry was just about all there was to the best of my knowledge. Mindflux just simply stated that there is nothing wrong with a terry towel if it is used correctly.

Look at the 2nd pic: It looks to me like she is pulling the towel across the hood. She is not pressing down on the hood at all. She is doing it correctly.





 
Fly bye said:
Before MF's, cotton terry was just about all there was to the best of my knowledge. Mindflux just simply stated that there is nothing wrong with a terry towel if it is used correctly.
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Well there were things like "The water sprite" and "the absorber" type chamois, that sucked up water well but once they got wet they stuck to the body panels like crazy. I don't think anyone really liked them all that much. I'm not sure how long those types of drying apparatus' have been around either.

Thanks for backing me up on the towel thing, some folks just have no interest in doing things any other way than they way they were coached or hypnotized via advertising to use.
 
Yes...this makes me sick. You know the old saying..you cant fix stupid!
 
OK, confession time. I'm am fairly new to this site and certainly new to the "right" way to wash, clean, detail, etc. a vehicle. Prior to my current vehicle, I would wash my cars every couple of months or so, wax maybe (emphasis on maybe) once a year, almost never dry it (they were all light colored cars so the water spots were hard to see). You know the saying...ignorance is bliss. Bottom line, you all would have been bashing me like you are doing to this poor girl.

It wasn't until I got a new vehicle a few months ago that I started looking into the proper way to care for it. That is how I found Autogeek. I am not trying to become a professional detailer, just an enthusiast who takes better care of his stuff than he used to. This site, especially with the instructional threads from Mike P and all the information that you experienced folks are offering, is really upping my game and teaching me how to take care my cars. But if I didn't look for and find a better process, I'd still be doing it the same old way.

I guess what I'm saying is, we don't know what we don't know. This girl, and many many people out there, may think they are doing it the right way. Or better put, they don't think they are doing it the wrong way. I would not be hesitant to try to show them a better way, or point them to this forum. That is how we learn!

Ok, I'm done. Let me have it! :bash:
 
I completely agree with you clm. I started doing some small time detailing for friends and family, about 1 1/2 yrs. ago, and pretty much 99% of what I learned about detailing, came from this forum. There are so many people on here with tons of knowledge and willing to share it. Like you, my interest just began, wanting to take better care of my own vehicle, but now has led to making some extra money, doing something I really enjoy and take pride in.
 
Mindflux said:
Thanks for backing me up on the towel thing, some folks just have no interest in doing things any other way than they way they were coached or hypnotized via advertising to use.
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I've been detailing since 1995, there were bath towels,terry cloth, flannel, diapers, shop rags, torn up socks, t-shirts and bounty paper towels. That is what I learned on. Sorry, but your whole concept of us being convinced due to marketing and hype is ridiculous. Nice attempt to discredit me. I only use what works better. I remember the days of old school detailing technology, I don't miss the unnecessary wash marring, quickly clogged terry cloths and lint ridden cracks and crevices just for starters. I do wish my microfibers were made in the USA though. Anyways I'm through defending today's technology. Good luck to you.
 
I think both, MF'S and terry towels have their proper place in detailing,and when used properly can get the job done correctly
 
Soakin' Joe's said:
I've been detailing since 1995, there were bath towels,terry cloth, flannel, diapers, shop rags, torn up socks, t-shirts and bounty paper towels. That is what I learned on. Sorry, but your whole concept of us being convinced due to marketing and hype is ridiculous. Nice attempt to discredit me. I only use what works better. I remember the days of old school detailing technology, I don't miss the unnecessary wash marring, quickly clogged terry cloths and lint ridden cracks and crevices just for starters. I do wish my microfibers were made in the USA though. Anyways I'm through defending today's technology. Good luck to you.
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I never said I didn't use microfiber and "today's technology", I said that there's nothing wrong with using a high quality 100% cotton towel to dry your car. And guess what? THERE ISN'T!

You're welcome to get off your high horse whenever you feel like it and come down with the rest of us in civilization. No need to judge this woman based on what media she's using to dry her car -- unless it was a rock or a tree branch.
 
Mindflux said:
I never said I didn't use microfiber and "today's technology", I said that there's nothing wrong with using a high quality 100% cotton towel to dry your car. And guess what? THERE ISN'T!

You're welcome to get off your high horse whenever you feel like it and come down with the rest of us in civilization. No need to judge this woman based on what media she's using to dry her car -- unless it was a rock or a tree branch.
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A rock or a tree branch? Really? This towel issue is beat.

As far as your smooth attempt to convince me to lower my standards, you have failed. Our business model is not a car wash, it is detailing. Has been that way for years now. No high horse here. Just a low volume high priced, high quality detail shop.

:argue:I'm sure you want the last word so go ahead. :dblthumb2:
 
Yes, really. She might deserve your chastising if she was that ignorant.

As for lowering your standards, I'm not saying to use your shop rags I am saying 100% cotton bath towels are not bad tools of the trade.
 
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