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Hello everyone, today I was doing a full detail on my car. I was doing a tight spot with my random da polisher so I was using chemical guys orange 3inch pad. Halfway through the section the pad suddenly inflated and sprayed compound everywhere. I have no idea why this happened. It's still intact. Any ideas?
 
Heat. Internally, the foam separated from the velcro backing. If you free-spun the pad it might have helped separate it, and if you do it again it'll probably go flying off leaving behinf the velcro backing
 
A hex logic right ?

Those pads are just useless. The Velcro in the back is just comical how bad it is.

In one day I opened a BRAND NEW SET OF HEX LOGIC PADS,

And they all flew off brand new pads on a porter cable none the less.

2 yellow pads
1 green
1 white
1 orange
1 blue
And a red pad lifted up a little bit I can still use it at low speeds cause its a finishing pad.

And I find it more comical that chemical guys puts them on there 21mm long throw machine on YouTube LOL YA RIGHT MY PC TORE THIS THINGS APART let alone a long throw.
 
NextLevelDtail said:
A hex logic right ?

Those pads are just useless. The Velcro in the back is just comical how bad it is.

In one day I opened a BRAND NEW SET OF HEX LOGIC PADS,

And they all flew off brand new pads on a porter cable none the less.

2 yellow pads
1 green
1 white
1 orange
1 blue
And a red pad lifted up a little bit I can still use it at low speeds cause its a finishing pad.

And I find it more comical that chemical guys puts them on there 21mm long throw machine on YouTube LOL YA RIGHT MY PC TORE THIS THINGS APART let alone a long throw.
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Damn, what other pads do you recommend?
 
I don't really recommend anything from chemical guys.

they do have some decent stuff, but for that price, you can equally good or better stuff

... anyways

I am big fan of LC pad, hydro tech pads and flat pads.
or meguairs thin pads are pretty nice too.
 
Contact them.

I have a new set of CG pads and haven't had any issues. But I do know my previous set did not like heat. If they got hot from over working, they were toast.
 
Just my Suggestions:
Random da polisher slow down the speed it's very easy to overheat pads with small diameter pads. Use multiple pads,
Clean the pads regularly, Do not saturate pad with product.
 
I don't have much faith in them. They are terrible at taking care of issues that they have created, and all but impossible to get a response from.

I've had problems with pads they sent me that were clearly not like the others I had of the same color. They were a different foam composition, the hexagons were smaller, and more numerous, the cut was sloppy, and the backing was flimsy. I got two uses out of them before the backing fell off. Meanwhile, the pads I got in 2013, and others from the spring time are working perfectly.
 
Buff and Shine had a similar foam line up. It's my understanding that B&S manufacturers their pads. This doesn't mean that CG won't source them elsewhere whose quality isn't up to par....

Genuine Buff and Shine, and Lake Country pads are available here all day long. I also favor Lake Country Hydrotech pads on the PC. If you blew up an orange HL pad, you'll blow up a B&S orange, or Hydrotech.
 
This was all done in one day not kidding, I had 2 green ones and they both flew off and into the air after 3 mins of use on speed of 4.5 on a PC the white pad did the same, the yellows same. And the blues and red I was applying black light on a whopping speed of 4 and they couldn't handle it lmao

So LOL AT PUTTING THEM ON A LONG THROW ORBITAL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. PURE GARBAGE

By the way the green pads are 2 different pads and they both did the same in the matter of 6 mins lmao
 
Lol what a waste of money

The sad part is there still good brand new pads but no way to stick them on my machine I'm not going to spray glue ruin my backing plate and risk damaging a car for these junk pads
 
ski2 said:
Are you using enough pads per step?? If you're trying to do an entire car with one or two pads per step it's a recipe for failure--overheated blown up pads.

Take a look at this article by Mike Phillips: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...-how-many-pads-do-i-need-buff-out-my-car.html


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2 yellow pads
1 green
1 white
1 orange
1 blue
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I'm not a beginner I am a pro, I own and operate my own detail shop.

Maybe you didn't read what I said. They flew off within the first 3 mins of buffing I didn't get to finish one panel with either pad. I didnt go around the whole car and then failed, however that's still in excusable for a pad to fail.


The yellow pads were being used for
headlights and both failed, and I was using a AIO on the green pads for a cleaner wax job they both flew off instantly. Same for the white.

The blue and red I was using blacklight and they all failed the same day. On a porter cable, not my g21 not my flex, a porter cable.

My pads were obviously defected. I have used hex logic before and however they are flimsy but they did not break as fast as these.

I use all other pads with no issues.
 
NextLevelDtail said:
Lol what a waste of money

The sad part is there still good brand new pads but no way to stick them on my machine I'm not going to spray glue ruin my backing plate and risk damaging a car for these junk pads
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Looks as if you're over saturating your pads and not changing pads frequent enough, I can see where the liquid has soaked completely through to the velcro.

Some of those pads, especially the green, looks like they have WAY MORE than just a few minutes use!
 
AnthonyGXP said:
Looks as if you're over saturating your pads and not changing pads frequent enough, I can see where the liquid has soaked completely through to the velcro.

Some of those pads, especially the green, looks like they have WAY MORE than just a few minutes use!
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Uhhhh once again they flew off within the first few mins of buffing, I didn't over saturate, or have to swap out pads because I didn't get to go past one panel lmao....

Read what I said how they got messed up I did not do the whole car and failed.

Also the green pad was used with a black polish (mothers foam pad polish) its black that's why the pad is black.

I was doing a light polish on this daily driver and the green hex logic is for this one steps with a polish.


I own and operate a detail shop and very experienced with paint correction and never had anything happens like that with pads.

The green pad has open pores and the polish seeped. I was using foam pad polish from mothers.

I primed it and out 3 dots went to the fender and the pad flew in the air.

The pads are still useable.

The only reason they went bad is because of the separation from the flimsy Velcro hook n loop

Its adhered with glue and what happens when glue gets hot ?

Exactly. So I didn't use then improper I had defected pads. I didn't over saturate I didn't over use them .

Even if you did over saturate I can go to my shop and fill a lake country pad with product and run it on my g21 on speed 5 and do one side of a car and it will not fail like these did.
 
Kinda OT: I'd be curious to know where "they" are getting their 'velcro' from.

Bill
 
Does sound like they are defective. If they are sourced from B&S that's a real surprise to me as I've used B&S pads for years and never had a pad fail or Velcro separate. Perhaps CG is getting them from some other source.
 
NextLevelDtail--you might want to wait until after Sema to replace those pads. B&S will be annoucing their new pads designed for long throw polishers--look to be an excellent product.
 
Your pads are flying off and you aren't damaging the paint?

The only time I've had pads inflate, spit compound, or whip off would be when I've lifted the machine, saturated the pads, pads weren't completely dry, or over worked them.

And I've destroyed at least one of every brand by doing one of the above.

But I will say pads I've used from CG are definitely more sensitive to heat or saturation. I can get around a car for a complete correction with 2 pad so each color, wash once, give them a real good spin on the Rotary to make sure they are as dry as possible. If not, I'll wreck them in less than a minute.

Honestly looks like you're being too rough with them. I'd just move on from them and call it a day until they construct something that'll handle your abuse.
 
heckhole said:
Your pads are flying off and you aren't damaging the paint?

The only time I've had pads inflate, spit compound, or whip off would be when I've lifted the machine, saturated the pads, pads weren't completely dry, or over worked them.

And I've destroyed at least one of every brand by doing one of the above.

But I will say pads I've used from CG are definitely more sensitive to heat or saturation. I can get around a car for a complete correction with 2 pad so each color, wash once, give them a real good spin on the Rotary to make sure they are as dry as possible. If not, I'll wreck them in less than a minute.

Honestly looks like you're being too rough with them. I'd just move on from them and call it a day until they construct something that'll handle your abuse.
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Lol once again my abuse was a porter cable on a speed of 4.5 I was applying, a light polish just enhancing gloss on a neglected daily driver that's all. And the greens and whites flew off.

The yellow I was being rough speed 6 on the headlights and they didn't last more then 5 mins I didn't get to do the other headlight.

The blue and red I was applying blacklight to a black Honda on speed 4 they didn't fly off they just ripped from the velcro.

So if a speed 4.5 and 4 is too rough i guess I don't know how to be gentle 😃

I never had any other problem with any other pads lol.

Lake country
Boss pads
Hydro techs
CCS
Flat pads
Rupes pads

And I used them on my long throws and flex.

These died on a porter cable. No abuse dude they were defected.

I had a orange hex logic and a white one last me like 10 cars in fact the orange hex logic is still use able the face started to break. But still intact.

So 2 pads out of 15 doesn't cut it for me I've had a bad experience and from my experience I wouldn't order or use them again especially with my G21.
 
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