Went looking at new cars Saturday, yuk!!

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These were old bird bombs too, felt like a shower after we got home. These were new $42k and up cars. Salesman just casually remarked about how the birds sit on the light poles and play target practice. I suggested moving the front row back a ways but he said it wasn’t his place to suggest it, he ‘only sells them’ .

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yikes! don't worry, the car lot wash guys will be by soon and will just pressure wash the car off (no soapy bucket/wash mitt) and then dry it with a rough chamois (wheels and all) adding more damage then is already present. the clean shiny swirls will be glistening in the sun in no time... :bolt:
 
Maybe you should call the dealership tomorrow morning and ask to speak to the manager and offer him some constructive criticism. Tell him you were there shopping for a new car but were turned off by what you saw.
 
Maybe you should call the dealership tomorrow morning and ask to speak to the manager and offer him some constructive criticism. Tell him you were there shopping for a new car but were turned off by what you saw.

I did. The main manager as they put it said 'not much we can do, we make sure every car is clean and perfect when delivered to the customer. We can't keep them all clean all the time unfortunately.'. That was IT.
 
That is some BS.

I realize he can't keep every car showroom clean, but leaving old, gigantic bird bombs on the cars is just plain old "We don't give a sh!t " attitude.

I would be wondering if their attitude would be the same if I came to them with a warranty issue.

I'd certainly PASS on this "dealer".
 
It's been a while, that's a lot of crap and it was OLD. You know how it gets - crumbly and well the poor black car hood may be beyond saving. You can see where someone wiped it when it was wet.
 
These were old bird bombs too, felt like a shower after we got home. These were new $42k and up cars. Salesman just casually remarked about how the birds sit on the light poles and play target practice. I suggested moving the front row back a ways but he said it wasn’t his place to suggest it, he ‘only sells them’ .

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A $40k Subaru? Wow.
 
I recently went to a BMW dealer and the cars didn’t look much better. While I was there the lawn people were blowing off the new car area with gas blowers right between the new cars. Made me want to cry. Also made me decide to order a car instead of buying one off the lot!
 
That is some BS.

I realize he can't keep every car showroom clean, but leaving old, gigantic bird bombs on the cars is just plain old "We don't give a sh!t " attitude.

I would be wondering if their attitude would be the same if I came to them with a warranty issue.

I'd certainly PASS on this "dealer".

That's what comes to mind - how is the rest of the dealership operated?
 
That's what I was thinking. You'd have to be out of your mind.
AWD
The 2018 Subaru Outback AWD Touring with 3.6R Boxer engine is 41,255 with a few popular accessories. I drove one (a clean one) and it's pretty nice. It's the top of the line except for the new Ascent SUV coming out later this Summer I think.

The 41,255 is quick to be dealt down to around 36-37k with just a little dealing.
 
It’s too bad that Suburu dealership doesn’t know about PBL Diamond Paint Sealant..
According to Pimpmobile, all you have to do is spray some quik detailer on dried bird crap and it grows legs and walks off the paint without even needing to wipe.

Remember how slick I said the paint was. Earlier today there was dried on bird crap and I sprayed it with quick
detail spray and it come off instantly without even wiping.
 
Dealers have NO clue, no matter what type of car they are selling...

Still never forget being at an english car show a few years back and the local MacLaren dealership had a few cars on display.
All 3 of them were swirled messes. When I started pointing it out to the sales rep there he simply said, "they just need a little wax".

:doh:

I was like, "no way I'd pay 1/4 to half a million dollars for a car that is in this bad a condition off the lot".
He just looked at me.
 
I recently went to a BMW dealer and the cars didn’t look much better. While I was there the lawn people were blowing off the new car area with gas blowers right between the new cars. Made me want to cry. Also made me decide to order a car instead of buying one off the lot!

That’s one of the three reasons I’ll be ordering my next car. Really sad how poorly most dealers treat their inventory, but most of their customers don’t have a clue or care I’m afraid.
 
That’s one of the three reasons I’ll be ordering my next car. Really sad how poorly most dealers treat their inventory, but most of their customers don’t have a clue or care I’m afraid.

Not always true... My brother just bought a brand new Ford F 150 last night. They peeled off all of the protective plastic & foam right in front of him.
They forgot a piece.

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Brand new factory black paint, and it’s swirl free. It does have this 1 rid that I found, but it should come off.

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This thread is a detailers dream for justifying why you NEED a "new car prep package" to offer customers. The pictures are priceless and you should water-mark them and use them for your customers.

I had a client recently bring his Porsche GTS to me, then he decided he wanted a Panamera. He went out and purchased one as soon as the desire popped into his head. I told him to bring it right over to me and we'd do a our new vehicle prep including the clear bra. He said, it doesn't need new car prep, that, it's new. I had to show him several shots of cars we did that were ***New*** and how awful they really were before we worked our magic.

The sales team wants the car off the lot and papers signed immediately. The transfer of ownership and titling of the vehicle gets the car off their inventory, makes them profit, and eliminates any debt on the vehicle. The sooner the better. As my buddy says (who's been in the auto sales industry for 25 years), "there is an a$$ for every seat." Sadly, that's the attitude of this dealership.

The cars come off the line, and get stored in a giant lot until the orders come in from dealers. Then they're put on trucks, trains and more trucks until they get to their destination. The service department does an in-take and checks the vehicle out and puts a few miles on the car. Once they know it's sound, it goes on the lot for who knows how long, exposed to everything: sprinkler systems, snow removal, families that come out kicking tires, test-drives, kids paws all over everything, bird bombs, lot guys who occasionally clean them, and landscapers...

There are dealers that are "dog friendly" (I have nothing against dogs, I have two greyhounds), and will let you test drive the car to see if it works with the entire family including dogs. When we bought our Honda, they knew we were buying the car for the dogs, so they said, bring the dogs and test drive with them it it. I loved the customer service and bending over backwards to help me (sell me a car), but what if I wasn't a dog person and I found they missed cleaning dog slobber or dog hair, pee or poop. Or worse, had allergies?

Just because you "order" a car doesn't mean it's coming right from the factory to you. I'm sure they'll poll every dealer to see if there is a make/model/color and options you want somewhere first.

The only difference between a new car and a used car is well, the new isn't titled. It certainly is pre-owned (the dealer), and handled, it has miles on it and it's owned by someone who sees it as "units" or "inventory." I've seen some guys on my Mustang forums complain that their new car has 100 or more miles on them. Someone had to explain, it's not uncommon to have between 35 and 1500 miles on a new car. You'd be surprised how much mileage is racked up form moving them around and test drives.

Case in point, my recent new purchase was a 2016 Mustang EB. The door sticker doesn't lie, it was manufactured on Jan 2016. I didn't buy the car until Jan 2017, an entire year from the date it was produced. Luckily the car didn't move. It had 32 miles on it, battery was dead and tires had flat-spots. All negotiating points. :)

The dealer is right, they'll hit it with some cleaner wax with fillers and they'll look great at the end of the day. And the more expensive the brand, doesn't mean the treatment of the inventory is any better or worse.

I guess the point here is NOT to bash dealerships. They are "car stores" with inventory... No different than Walmart selling TV's. They have product to sell and make money doing so, with really tight margins and overhead. They have families and food to put on the table too, moreover, they're not car geeks like us... Which brings me back to my first point, this thread is a detailers dream. This is where we detailers come in to save the day! :)
 
Drive by last evening and they were all 30 foot clean and shiny. I guess my convo with the general manager got the attention of someone at least this time.


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AWD
The 2018 Subaru Outback AWD Touring with 3.6R Boxer engine is 41,255 with a few popular accessories. I drove one (a clean one) and it's pretty nice. It's the top of the line except for the new Ascent SUV coming out later this Summer I think.

The 41,255 is quick to be dealt down to around 36-37k with just a little dealing.

I've had mine for about a month. It's amazing.


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Ill say this, the Toyota dealer by me has a bird noise maker. It has the sounds of various hawks and I almost never see bird poop on the cars. Does well and it's such a simple tool. Hell, it keeps the birds away from the BMW dealer a cross the street too!
 
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