What are you using for a one-step and a two-spet polish

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I'm curious to know what you guys are using as a one-step and two-step when polishing.
I was thinking HD Speed for a one-step since it's an AIO.
I already have CG V36 and V38 for a two-step but I'm sure there is something better.

Thanks!
 
To me, "one-step" only refers to the polishing process and does not include protection. A one-step correction will attempt to maximize defect removal without sacrificing the finish (ie no marring or haze). Depending on the condition of the vehicle, paint color, perceived hardness of paint, etc. there are tons of great product/pad combos that work well to accomplish this. We really like Griot's Correcting Cream and HD Adapt.

I refer to a "two-step" as a compounding & polishing combination where the first step levels the surface to remove as many defects as possible (still using the least aggressive method to accomplish this goal, of course) without worrying about finish. DA Haze/micromarring is expected here. The polishing process will then easily clean up the haze and restore a perfectly clear finish. Our most common compounds would be Griot's Fast Correcting Cream & Meguiar's D300. Our most popular polishes would likely be M205, Optimum Hyper Polish, and CarPro Reflect.
 
Same as above ^

1 step for me is a fine polish such as M205. I follow this with a sealant - Menzerna Powerlock.
 
Hey Zach, since you are using a lot of "we" and "our", did I misinterpret that space with the lift you were working in as a customer location? Is that actually where you and your team are working out of now? If so, congrats on the "shop".
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Hey Zach, since you are using a lot of "we" and "our", did I misinterpret that space with the lift you were working in as a customer location? Is that actually where you and your team are working out of now? If so, congrats on the "shop".
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Yessir - we moved into the shop last year. Still a part time operation, but I've got 1 helper who has been with me for the past 2.5 years and I am in the process of training another.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
Yessir - we moved into the shop last year. Still a part time operation, but I've got 1 helper who has been with me for the past 2.5 years and I am in the process of training another.
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Yes, I remember you saying you had a helper and were looking for another, I just didn't realize that was your location, I made some comment in another thread about you working on a "collection" because I mistakenly thought it was your customer's warehouse that he kept his collection in. Are you thinking about going full-time at some point? Or having employees working full time there while you continue your day job?

To the OP: sorry to sidetrack your thread.
 
I usually use either m205 or fg400 for a one-step and is entirely dependent on the condition. I follow it up with a sealant or wax. However I also use an AIO for people on a budget and in that case Ill use Meg's D151
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yes, I remember you saying you had a helper and were looking for another, I just didn't realize that was your location, I made some comment in another thread about you working on a "collection" because I mistakenly thought it was your customer's warehouse that he kept his collection in. Are you thinking about going full-time at some point? Or having employees working full time there while you continue your day job?

To the OP: sorry to sidetrack your thread.
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Trying to send you PM to keep this thread on track... but your inbox is full
 
usmcpab said:
I usually use either m205 or fg400 for a one-step and is entirely dependent on the condition. I follow it up with a sealant or wax. However I also use an AIO for people on a budget and in that case Ill use Meg's D151
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Isn't M205 a polish only? I mean isn't a one-step supposed to remove at least a little swirls?
 
RangerDetails said:
Isn't M205 a polish only? I mean isn't a one-step supposed to remove at least a little swirls?
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What do you mean "polish only"... a polish, by definition, contains abrasives. Albeit a finer abrasive and/or lower concentration compared to a compound, but even a fine polish can be very effective at removing swirls in the right application.


This was done with M205 on an orange light cutting pad. A great one-step!

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zmcgovern45 said:
What do you mean "polish only"... a polish, by definition, contains abrasives. Albeit a finer abrasive and/or lower concentration compared to a compound, but even a fine polish can be very effective at removing swirls in the right application.


This was done with M205 on an orange light cutting pad. A great one-step!

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I thought that a final polish had no cutting power what so ever. I just started polishing(after being too scared to try) and I'm only familiar with the CG V-line. V38 final polish doesn't have any abrasive in it(as far as I know).

Thanks for clarifying things.

I think I will test these 3 for a one-step:
M205
HD Adapt
HD Speed.
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Finishing polishes certainly do contain abrasives. The purpose of a fine polish is to remove finer defects from paint... in order to remove defects, you must remove paint. In order to remove paint, you must have abrasive material.

Polishing liquids can range from very coarse (what we call compounds) to very fine (what we call fine finishing polishes) and everywhere in between.

M205 is rated as a 4 out of 12 on Meguiar's Cut Scale, which puts it somewhere in the mid to fine polishing range. Adapt has more cutting power.

Check out the Autopia Polishing Chart as a reference of how various products are rated in terms of aggressiveness relative to other products.
 
RangerDetails said:
I'm curious to know what you guys are using as a one-step and two-step when polishing.
I was thinking HD Speed for a one-step since it's an AIO.
I already have CG V36 and V38 for a two-step but I'm sure there is something better.

Thanks!
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•I can see your use of the detailing term:
"one-step"...being applicable to an AIO.

-But when using just one abrasive product
prior to applying the Last Step Product...
-do you also use the same "one-step"
terminology?

-That could cause some confusion, IMO.


•Another thought:
-If you take all of the AIOs out of the
equation; and, add in the fact that I
(and maybe some others) consider
an LSP as a "step"...
-Is there, then, really such a thing
as a one-step process?

{Can carrying this analogy over to
when more than one...or two, etc...
abrasive product(s) will be used,
also result in no such thing as a
two/three/etc.-steps?}



Bob
 
I really like Menz. 2500 (not sure what the new # is) for a one step. Has pretty good cut for mild defects and finishes down great. I would even put fg400 in the one step category and it has even more teeth to it. I'm currently on a HD Polish kick, though. Love that it cuts down the time needed to polish and a little goes a long way. But it doesn't have a ton of bite so I want to try Adapt in the near future.
 
boomdone said:
I really like Menz. 2500 (not sure what the new # is) for a one step. Has pretty good cut for mild defects and finishes down great. I would even put fg400 in the one step category and it has even more teeth to it. I'm currently on a HD Polish kick, though. Love that it cuts down the time needed to polish and a little goes a long way. But it doesn't have a ton of bite so I want to try Adapt in the near future.
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Adapt is pretty excellent... this was with a foam light cutting pad.

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FUNX650 said:
•I can see your use of the detailing term:
"one-step"...being applicable to an AIO.

-But when using just one abrasive product
prior to applying the Last Step Product...
-do you also use the same "one-step"
terminology?

-That could cause some confusion, IMO.


•Another thought:
-If you take all of the AIOs out of the
equation; and, add in the fact that I
(and maybe some others) consider
an LSP as a "step"...
-Is there, then, really such a thing
as a one-step process?

{Can carrying this analogy over to
when more than one...or two, etc...
abrasive product(s) will be used,
also result in no such thing as a
two/three/etc.-steps?}



Bob
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I do not count the LSP as a step.
I consider a "step" as paint correction only.
Even with AIO that seal/wax the paint I would still apply a sealant after correction.

So one-step being a polish,
Two-step being mild compound then polish and three-step being harsh compound then mild compound then polish. Correct me if i'm wrong on the three-step. For any step I would top with sealant.
 
I have used Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover and had it finish out nice enough to be LSP ready. It ranks as a 7 cut on the Autopia Polishing Chart and finishes out nicely.
 
RangerDetails said:
I do not count the LSP as a step.
I consider a "step" as paint correction only.
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OK...As long as you can keep it straight. :dblthumb2:

RangerDetails said:
Even with AIO that seal/wax the paint
I would still apply a sealant after correction.
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Your choice, even though I wouldn't.

Also:
If the AIO was a Cleaner/Wax,
would you still apply a Sealant
on top of it?


Bob
 
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