What did I do wrong

I think my problem was that I have detailed my cars by hand since I was 17 and the autozone near me always had meguiars products and I always used there cloth pads and never had a problem...I guess I wasn't expecting a problem with trying but I should of waited and thought about what I learned on here and went about it in a different way...not to blame her but I also had the wife yelling to hurry up and finish cause we had people coming over and I had two storage boxes with all my supplies spread all over the front yard...oh well
 
I think my problem was that I have detailed my cars by hand since I was 17 and the autozone near me always had meguiars products and I always used there cloth pads and never had a problem...I guess I wasn't expecting a problem with trying but I should of waited and thought about what I learned on here and went about it in a different way...not to blame her but I also had the wife yelling to hurry up and finish cause we had people coming over and I had two storage boxes with all my supplies spread all over the front yard...oh well
Your understanding of "never having a problem" and our understanding of never having a problem are two very different things. From a detailers (moderatley informed to professional) you are probably make way more mistakes than you think (from washing, to claying, to quick waxing). Make a cup of coffee, open up the how to section and learn!:dblthumb2:
 
I went from being the worse "detailer" (car washer / OTC wax applier) to someone who is pretty darn good. It takes me a long time, but I can get excellent results, so can you. A few things I've learned:

1. Never rush or work when you have time constraints. If you don't have the time, don't bother, or tell yourself from the beginning your just going to do one panel. You can eventually complete a whole car that way. An example is a test spot. If you don't spend the time to do that and just keep going, you will be super frustrated at the end if you see all the scratches staring back at you. If you can't get the test spot right, you can't get the rest of the car right

2. Don't try and come up with "short cuts" or think you know better than someone who has been doing this for a long time. There is a reason for all the steps. If you read what M. Phillips writes, every sentence and word is chosen for a reason. Things are done in a certain order for a reason. He doesn't recommend procedures that are not needed IMO.

An example here is cleaning the wheels first and with a dedicated wheel cleaning product. I resisted this for a long time, because I used to use my left over wash solution to clean wheels. Nobody professional does it this way. Everyone uses a dedicated wheel cleaner and does them first. So, I would end up getting splash back on the paint and water spots on the paint from it drying. The wheels never came out super clean because I was just using spent soap.

I used to try and "do it my way", but eventually learned there were reasons why knowledgeable detailers do certain things. .

3. Don't get frustrated if you don't get the results you were looking for the first time. This isn't rocket science, you can teach yourself. But, there is some learning involved and some experience necessary. When I first bought a PC, I didn't get the results I wanted (didn't do it right), so I gave up and assumed my PC wasn't working right and put it away for years. I should have kept with it.

4. Spend the money for the correct tools and use the right tool for the right job. Having stuff like: Daytona Brushes, Boars Hair Wheel Brushes, a quality wash mitt, Wheel Woolies, quality towels, a stiff tire brush, a quality APC (not Fantastik!), a dedicated pad cleaning product and brush, a microfiber wash, quality drying towels, Boars Hair Paint Brush, quality spray bottles, etc... Does really help you get better results.

When I first started out I resisted buying a lot of stuff thinking I could just "cross use" tools, products, and cleaners. First its a PIA, second its just more work. Then I figured out there was a reason for this stuff. Honestly, most quality products aren't "hype" and they do work well for what they are intended for if used as directed. Most times it is worth it to get a specific product to use for a specific task.

5. Shop around and wait for sales. AG has pretty decent sales every other day. Always get your "free sample" when spending $50. The BOGO stuff is really the way to go. When something you use a lot comes up on BOGO, buy 2 (your allowed to get 4 products total). A lot of times even if stuff isn't on sale, if your buying several products from the same manufacturer, just google their name - like "Menzerna" or "Sonax". Sale codes usually come up for a manufacturer.

Like this:

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Well, happy detailing and Good Luck!
 
i definitely learned from my mistake...i was rushed and excited to try a new product but instead of sitting back and thinking of the correct way to go about i just went with my old method and payed the price..i do feel a little stupid now thinking about but i guess the most important thing is i learned from it with tons of help from members on here
 
Yeah... never rush. Rushing creates brain freeze and you compromise quality. If there 1 more thing I would add, try not to work tired. When you get tired, you tend to take short cuts. Instead, rest and recharge. Hence don't put a time limit on yourself.

I am sure people who do this work for money may feel and may even need to work with time limits but your case and mine, we should be not constricted by it. Not to mention, we are doing this as a hobby. We should be enjoying this if anything at all.

Btw, hope to see some pictures when you are done. Like I mentioned before, I used to own a 97 Mustang GT and would love see your final results. Man... I miss that car.
 
im actually off for the holiday weekend so my plan is to take those 3 days of finish...I actually stopped home at lunch and tried a little spot with the foam applicator and M205 like u said and that made a nice difference already so im hoping with the machine I will see some great results...the only thing I saw after I finished is a little bit of hazing,is that normal? I was gonna sell it when I bought a house but I just couldn't do it..i put so much work into it years ago I hate to see it go
 
I just want to thank everyone again for your help. I used a white finishing pad with M205 and all the marks I put in there yesterday are 100% gone and the finish looks amazing..as long as the weather holds up this weekend I will post pics...thank you all again
 
Well Joe you now know you have a softer paint so keep that in mind when washing and drying and anytime you do anything to your paint!
 
Is there any products or certain techniques that I should try to avoid
 
2 bucket method for washing. Get Grit Guards!!!! Do the sheeting/pooling method to dry and get most of the water off the car then bloat/pat dry.

Get a good washing mitt and good drying towels
 
Wow... hazing with m205 on white pad? That's some soft paint. You might want to stick with grey pads and lighten up on the pressure.

As for product with use of a DA... nothing you should avoid as long as you control with the amount of pressure you apply. For some reason I do want to mention perhaps you would want to avoid clay alternatives and stick with the traditional fine grade clay.
 
Joeyp3021, we have a 96 SVT Cobra black. And in my experience the paint is soft. If I look at it wrong it scratches. I've learned a lot from the great people here on this forum. They are always willing to share.

Mike Phillips, Tuscarora Dave, and many others to mention just a few.

I also understand the Oh Sh**, I just screwed up my paint feeling. Slow and EZ is the way to go. Congrats on fixing your mistake.

Spiney-Dave. Reading, PA.
 
thanks I was very happy I fixed it also..i did one more pass with almost no pressure and the hazing was gone..the weather here in jersey don't look to promising for the weekend but I don't care if it takes me a week im gonna take my time and enjoy the process and hope I end up with great results
 
here are a few finished pics...I couldn't take more last night cause the neighbor was turning on his sprinklers...I think for my first time the 18yr old paint looks pretty nice
 
here are a few finished pics...I couldn't take more last night cause the neighbor was turning on his sprinklers...I think for my first time the 18yr old paint looks pretty nice

Sure does... and looks great!

Did you say it was a 95? That's the one with the 5.0 right?
Not sure performance wise but the 5.0L sounded so much nicer than the 4.6L.
 
yeah it was the last year before they changed to the 4.6L
 
Awesome Joey. I've been watching this thread pretty closely. I've got my first detail coming up this week and I am trying to learn from others mistakes. Loves the Cobras btw. I had a Vibrant red 93. Loved it!
 
here are a few finished pics...I couldn't take more last night cause the neighbor was turning on his sprinklers...I think for my first time the 18yr old paint looks pretty nice
The paint looks nice Joe... When you first start doing this kind of work with a machine, there's always a certain level of anxiety to work through. Going with a light to medium polish and soft pad on your new machine is always the best bet. I remember my first time machine polishing (it was black paint also) and I was so excited with the results. You'll get better and better at it each time you do it.
 
Nice work, Joey. Looks great!

I'm sure there are a lot of "lurkers" like myself who are reading stories like this closely and learning something new every single time...
 
thanks everyone...I loved the 93 cobras...I have put a lot of work into this car over the years problem is im not sure my neighbors love it as much as I do
 
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