What did you do today, in regards to detailing?

[CleanIT]

Can Coat. Regular not Evo.


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[Klasse Act]

So today my buddy is coming over to help me with some furniture and to finally check out and drive the EN for the first time, so I decided to clean it up (yes, I ran it through the touch-free yesterday morning).

It had alot of pollen on it (as you can see in the 1st pic) so a good pre-wash is what was going to be happening here. For this I reached for Griot's Garage foaming surface prep, 3 oz and filled to the line, in my Griot's Garage foam gun. It laid down a thick, full, bubbly foam. I let it dwell and rinsed away. In the 2nd pic you can see the beading afterwards, not bad huh

Next were the rims, they haven't had a complete clean as the last 2 washes were at the touch-free and quarter wash, so no bucket and brushes and they needed it...I needed it I used Brake Buster and went to town, lots of BROWN from the barrels, very satisfying! In the pic after the foaming and scrubbing is the rinse, look at the beading of the rims there

I next decided to apply some more gloss and protection, so out came the Griot's Garage Poly Gloss in its designated IK foamer. I basically used the entire contents to foam down everything, including the rims, why notLook at the beading in the roof shot

I then dried the EN off with my large Griot's Garage PFM drying towel and designated tire and wheel mf towel. I finished up applying Griot's Garage Black Shine to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s', giving them a bit "more"️️

I can't wait for pollen season to be over as well as the new stairs and porches to be finished at our apartment, don't like being parked where I am and the general mess in our small parking lot. Pretty soon the parking lot will be re-sealed and new parking lines, so that will look pretty nice!

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[CleanIT]

So today my buddy is coming over to help me with some furniture and to finally check out and drive the EN for the first time, so I decided to clean it up (yes, I ran it through the touch-free yesterday morning).

It had alot of pollen on it (as you can see in the 1st pic) so a good pre-wash is what was going to be happening here. For this I reached for Griot's Garage foaming surface prep, 3 oz and filled to the line, in my Griot's Garage foam gun. It laid down a thick, full, bubbly foam. I let it dwell and rinsed away. In the 2nd pic you can see the beading afterwards, not bad huh

Next were the rims, they haven't had a complete clean as the last 2 washes were at the touch-free and quarter wash, so no bucket and brushes and they needed it...I needed it I used Brake Buster and went to town, lots of BROWN from the barrels, very satisfying! In the pic after the foaming and scrubbing is the rinse, look at the beading of the rims there

I next decided to apply some more gloss and protection, so out came the Griot's Garage Poly Gloss in its designated IK foamer. I basically used the entire contents to foam down everything, including the rims, why notLook at the beading in the roof shot

I then dried the EN off with my large Griot's Garage PFM drying towel and designated tire and wheel mf towel. I finished up applying Griot's Garage Black Shine to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s', giving them a bit "more"️️

I can't wait for pollen season to be over as well as the new stairs and porches to be finished at our apartment, don't like being parked where I am and the general mess in our small parking lot. Pretty soon the parking lot will be re-sealed and new parking lines, so that will look pretty nice!

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How do you like Foaming Surface prep? I watched a video a while back and it doesn't seem to pre-clean all that well. But I suppose it's powerful enough to remove light pollen.

Car looks great!

 

[CleanIT]

Snow Foam Test : Griot Garage Foaming Surface Wash - YouTube

 

[Klasse Act]

How do you like Foaming Surface prep? I watched a video a while back and it doesn't seem to pre-clean all that well. But I suppose it's powerful enough to remove light pollen.

Car looks great!

It did do a great job for what I was looking for, that pollen is really something! IIRC it has a 7.5 pH, so more than a regular soap but nothing like Bilt-Hamber Touchless or Auto-foam, 12 and 13 pH numbers there.

I think for what it is its a good enough product, don't know what the price of Griot's Garage foaming surface prep is by the gallon but I know this, once it's used up, 1 more wash I think, there's no going back to it as I've got a gallon of each Bilt-Hamber Touchless and Auto-foam and they are, without a doubt, THEE best pre-wash soap you can buy by a mile️

Thank you for the compliment on the EN also

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[CleanIT]

Snow Foam Test : Bilt Hamber Auto Foam - YouTube

Super impressed with BH. :xyxthumbs:

 

[Klasse Act]

Snow Foam Test : Griot Garage Foaming Surface Wash - YouTube

Hold on here...that's a different product, that's foaming surface wash, I used foaming surface PREP. The prep is said to be used to strip any old waxes or sealants, foaming surface wash is your regular pre-wash product. It probably would've done a good enough job for my pollen removal but I'm out of that product and since trying Bilt-Hamber pre-washes I don't need that anymore, besides, I've got Koch Chemie GsF and TWHS Slick and Slide for pre-washes too.

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[CleanIT]

Hold on here...that's a different product, that's foaming surface wash, I used foaming surface PREP. The prep is said to be used to strip any old waxes or sealants, foaming surface wash is your regular pre-wash product. It probably would've done a good enough job for my pollen removal but I'm out of that product and since trying Bilt-Hamber pre-washes I don't need that anymore, besides, I've got Koch Chemie GsF and TWHS Slick and Slide for pre-washes too.

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Oh you are right, sorry about that. Whoops.

 

[MisterSnoop]

It did do a great job for what I was looking for, that pollen is really something! IIRC it has a 7.5 pH, so more than a regular soap but nothing like Bilt-Hamber Touchless or Auto-foam, 12 and 13 pH numbers there.

I think for what it is its a good enough product, don't know what the price of Griot's Garage foaming surface prep is by the gallon but I know this, once it's used up, 1 more wash I think, there's no going back to it as I've got a gallon of each Bilt-Hamber Touchless and Auto-foam and they are, without a doubt, THEE best pre-wash soap you can buy by a mile️

Thank you for the compliment on the EN also

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Griot's Foaming Surface Prep is pH 13.25, higher than Touchless, close to Auto-Foam. I'd guess diluted it will still be pH 12 or higher. Foaming Surface Wash is pH 6.

 

[Klasse Act]

Griot's Foaming Surface Prep is pH 13.25, higher than Touchless, close to Auto-Foam. I'd guess diluted it will still be pH 12 or higher. Foaming Surface Wash is pH 6.

I stand corrected and I wonder at what ratio that 13.25 is achieved Now I'm trying to figure out where I saw that 7.5 pH rating for Prep, maybe I just misremembered it

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[MisterSnoop]

Did a 3 bucket wash (BH Auto-Wash, Rinse and Griot's Wash & Coat) last night. First time using the Auto-Wash. Used a 6.5cc/ml measuring scoop I had (5 ml per 10 liters is the recommended dilution) for around 3 gallons. It worked well and I was still able to refresh the suds at the end of the wash without adding more soap. Had some small bits of tar behind the front wheels so followed up with Tarminator and then the Wash & Coat.

 

[MisterSnoop]

I stand corrected and I wonder at what ratio that 13.25 is achieved Now I'm trying to figure out where I saw that 7.5 pH rating for Prep, maybe I just misremembered it

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That's from their safety data sheet so that would be undiluted. I think it'll still be 12 something after you dilute it to their recommended dilution.

 

[Klasse Act]

Did a 3 bucket wash (BH Auto-Wash, Rinse and Griot's Wash & Coat) last night. First time using the Auto-Wash. Used a 6.5cc/ml measuring scoop I had (5 ml per 10 liters is the recommended dilution) for around 3 gallons. It worked well and I was still able to refresh the suds at the end of the wash without adding more soap. Had some small bits of tar behind the front wheels so followed up with Tarminator and then the Wash & Coat.

Bilt-Hamber AutoWash is pretty awesome, huh! I bet you had NO issues getting more foam towards the end, product is amazing and when the time comes I'll have to decide between AutoWash and Reset for my sole contact wash when I'm low on them

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[UncleDavy]

I stand corrected and I wonder at what ratio that 13.25 is achieved Now I'm trying to figure out where I saw that 7.5 pH rating for Prep, maybe I just misremembered it

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The Griots Foaming Surface Prep has a pH of 13.25 right from the bottle. The pH goes down to 12.21 with a 10:1 dilution and 11.93 with a 20:1 dilution. Their MSDS says 12.4 with a 10:1 dilution but they were probably starting with a pH range of 13-13.5. At the high side of the range, the 10:1 dilution would be 12.46.
Their Foaming Poly Gloss has the 7.5 pH rating.

 

[Klasse Act]

The Griots Foaming Surface Prep has a pH of 13.25 right from the bottle. The pH goes down to 12.21 with a 10:1 dilution and 11.93 with a 20:1 dilution. Their MSDS says 12.4 with a 10:1 dilution but they were probably starting with a pH range of 13-13.5. At the high side of the range, the 10:1 dilution would be 12.46.
Their Foaming Poly Gloss has the 7.5 pH rating.

Wow I didn't even consider a pH rating with Poly Gloss as it's not a soap, great info here guys

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[MisterSnoop]

Bilt-Hamber AutoWash is pretty awesome, huh! I bet you had NO issues getting more foam towards the end, product is amazing and when the time comes I'll have to decide between AutoWash and Reset for my sole contact wash when I'm low on them

A bottle of AutoWash would give you 100 washes if you did the teaspoon/10 liters (2.6 gal). That's a lot of Reset...

 

[Klasse Act]

A bottle of AutoWash would give you 100 washes if you did the teaspoon/10 liters (2.6 gal). That's a lot of Reset...

When I use AutoWash I am adding 1 oz to about 3 to 3.5 gallons of water and the suds are incredible and it does a great job cleaning my car️

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[CleanIT]

What LSP's does BH make that are worthwhile?

Just thinking out loud you could use BH Auto Foam/Touchless and Auto Wash for most of your washing needs.

Interesting discussion about pH and LSP degradation. Seems hit or miss depending on the chemistry of the LSP. BSD apparently gets destroyed by BH AutoFoam/Touchless.

Bilt Hamber Products diminishing LSP's - Page 2 - Detailing World

 

[Klasse Act]

What LSP's does BH make that are worthwhile?

Just thinking out loud you could use BH Auto Foam/Touchless and Auto Wash for most of your washing needs.

Interesting discussion about pH and LSP degradation. Seems hit or miss.

Bilt Hamber Products deminishing LSP's - Page 2 - Detailing World

I have none of their LSP's but Jon from Forensic Detailing surely has a review of their wax, forgot its name but he does like it. The duo of Touchless and Auto-foam will degrade your wax or sealant but if your car is coated your good to go. I used them for the 1st time this past winter on my ES and it literally melted away the salt muck, leaving a slight film of dirt on the very bottom. Right then and there I knew what my pre-wash soap was going to be, for the most part and I say "for the most part" because I've got others to use up like P&S Pearl, Koch Chemie GsF (which is very good) and TWHS Slick and Slide but that can be used in the bucket as well.

Once these other soaps go away in my collection I'll have my go to's widdled down to Bilt-Hamber Touchless and Auto-foam for pre-wash and either Bilt-Hamber AutoWash or Reset for the 2BM and that's it. I'm not sure if anyone will come along to change my mind on the Bilt-Hamber duo and speaking of them, I really need to figure out which one is best for me because they're oh so similar

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[CleanIT]

Bilt Hamber needs a faster, quicker spray Sio2 type sealant to use after you use BH Auto/Touchless which will remove their High Speed Wax lol.