What do you consider a "wash and wax"?

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When thinking of the average joe who does a wash and wax on his own car...is this literally referring to doing a basic rinse soap rinse and apply a liquid or paste wax or is it people simply adding a body shine (spray wax)?

Just wondering so if I do friends cars I know if I'm actually waxing or just applying a body shine

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This is my basic package... what I consider a "wash & wax" type of package

www.AttentiontoDetailingPeoria.com said:
Basic Protection Detail: Starting at only $80*
TYPICAL TIME REQUIRED: 2 OR MORE HOURS
-Paint is pre-soaked with a gentle foam solution to loosen dirt and grime from the vehicle's surface
-Paint is carefully hand washed using pH neutral shampoo and soft, clean sheepskin wash mitts that are safe for your paint, but tough on dirt and grime.
-Bugs, Tar, Tree Sap and other contaminates will be safely treated and removed from all exterior surfaces
-Paint will be dried with high quality microfiber towels
-Exterior glass is cleaned with appropriate cleaner and microfiber towels to ensure a streak free finish.
-Wheels faces and barrels are thoroughly cleaned using pH neutral cleaning products and appropriate brushes that will not harm your wheels
-Tires are cleaned using appropriate cleaners and brushes to ensure a proper bond for tire dressings
-Tires and trim will be properly dressed and protected
-Exhaust tips are polished and protected
-Synthetic sealant and/or Carnauba Wax is applied to exterior painted surfaces to protect your finish from the elements and to enhance the shine​
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Hey thanks for the reply! That was a great response!

Brought me to two questions though:

Whats a pre wash I can use to loosen dirt?

From the wash youre going to an actual wax? (For me I bought one called meguiars ultimate wax)...I can just use this right after a wash? This won't trap dirt in there by not using a clay bar?

Thanks!!

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Ill check out the video when I get off work.
For now,
My car 2011 jeep patriot
My dads two cars 2006 I think cadillac dts
And 2011 or 12 ford explorer

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if you feel that you need to clay, then clay, but yes, generally one can, and often does, go right from wash to wax/seal.

There is no need to wash-deconaminate-strip-clay-compound-polish-glaze-aio-coat-seal-wax every week...

have fun!
:D
 
KyleP said:
Hey thanks for the reply! That was a great response!

Brought me to two questions though:

Whats a pre wash I can use to loosen dirt?

From the wash youre going to an actual wax? (For me I bought one called meguiars ultimate wax)...I can just use this right after a wash? This won't trap dirt in there by not using a clay bar?

Thanks!!

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This is my very basic package, and for this, I do not include decontamination with a clay bar. If it were my own vehicle, I would always decontaminate prior to applying any sort of protection if needed, however when it is a customer car and they need to fit a certain budget, I have to start removing time consuming processes.

My next step up is:
www.AttentiontoDetailingPeoria.com said:
Advanced Protection Detail: Starting at only $160*
TYPICAL TIME REQUIRED: 4 OR MORE HOURS
-Includes all of the features of the Basic Protection Detail with the addition of:
-Iron X and Detailing Clay are used to remove bonded contaminates from the painted surfaces. This leaves a smooth surface which helps to enhance the appearance of your finish and provides a clean base for the glaze, sealant, or wax to adhere to.
-Glaze is applied to further prep the surface for protection while enhancing the gloss and depth of your paint by leaving an incredibly smooth and clean surface
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^While I typically do paint correction, I will try to sell this advanced package to anyone who is not interested in/can't afford the paint correction because I know the importance of the decontamination process.

As far as a pre-wash solution, I simply let the car soak with a CG Citrus Wash & Gloss foam solution applied with either my Gilmour foammaster II foam gun or my MTM foam lance

-Zach.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
This is my very basic package, and for this, I do not include decontamination with a clay bar. If it were my own vehicle, I would always decontaminate prior to applying any sort of protection if needed, however when it is a customer car and they need to fit a certain budget, I have to start removing time consuming processes.

My next step up is:
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^While I typically do paint correction, I will try to sell this advanced package to anyone who is not interested in/can't afford the paint correction because I know the importance of the decontamination process.

As far as a pre-wash solution, I simply let the car soak with a CG Citrus Wash & Gloss foam solution applied with either my Gilmour foammaster II foam gun or my MTM foam lance

-Zach.
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Thank you for taking the time to share your processes, Zach!
 
Thanks for all the information.
Do you see any harm in using wax after a wash for your own car? Just curious since my car is brand new well a year old and want to take care of it.

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If not done right and you apply wax to a none clean area or non clean materials than you can introduce marring or even worse scratches.

I have wondered if to much wax is to much.

What wax do you plan on using?

IMO why not apply a sealant then top with a carnauba? So you can get the best of both worlds. Protection and shine.

-Art
 
For wash and wax, I typically do the following:
-clean wheel face
-pressure washer rinse
-foam presoak
-rinse
-two bucket wash
-final rinse
-aqua wax
-hand dry
-wipe exterior glass with stoners glass cleaner and repellant
-apply hyper dressing on tires

Done, all for $50:xyxthumbs:
 
KyleP said:
Thanks for all the information.
Do you see any harm in using wax after a wash for your own car? Just curious since my car is brand new well a year old and want to take care of it.

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As it has already been said... if needed, decontaminate the paint prior to waxing.
 
KyleP said:
When thinking of the average joe who does a wash and wax on his own car...
is this literally referring to doing a basic rinse soap rinse and apply a liquid or paste wax
or is it people simply adding a body shine (spray wax)?

Just wondering so if I do friends cars I know if I'm actually waxing or just applying a body shine
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Very interesting terminology...
Calling a spray-wax application a "body shine".

Wouldn't you think that a paste or liquid wax could also impart a body shine?


Back to your other question:
I've washed vehicles (including mine) many a time using "a basic rinse soap rinse (and dry, I'll add) method"...

I then applied either a liquid, paste, cream/creme, or spray wax...
immediately thereafter...with seemingly no ill-effects to the vehicles or myself.

That's how I define a "wash & wax".

:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Very interesting terminology...
Calling a spray-wax application a "body shine".

Wouldn't you think that a paste or liquid wax could also impart a body shine?


Back to your other question:
I've washed vehicles (including mine) many a time using "a basic rinse soap rinse (and dry, I'll add) method"...

I then applied either a liquid, paste, cream/creme, or spray wax...
immediately thereafter...with seemingly no ill-effects to the vehicles or myself.

That's how I define a "wash & wax".

:)

Bob
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That's what i'm used to people at the dealership I worked at calling spray waxes.

Edit: In note of what I just said, I then took this information as meaning that products we used at the dealership (mainly jaxwax hawaiian shine) claiming "quick detailer" or "wax as you dry" product such as that would not actually provide a real wax like the meguiars ultimate wax but instead just a body shine and clean off dust and what not. That's how I took it...
 
KyleP said:
That's what i'm used to people at the dealership I worked at calling spray waxes.

jaxwax
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Starting...Now:
Would be a good time as any to start getting a lot of that dealership-lingo out of your system...IMHO.

Aaahhh Yes: Good ol' JaxWax: From an Ohio-based company, no less. :xyxthumbs:
How'd you like their: "Blue" tire dressing?

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Starting...Now:
Would be a good time as any to start getting a lot of that dealership-lingo out of your system...IMHO.

Aaahhh Yes: Good ol' JaxWax: From an Ohio-based company, no less. :xyxthumbs:
How'd you like their: "Blue" tire dressing?

Bob
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Can't tell if serious or not so i'll play along.
I actually think their tire shine was a good product. Being that your familiar with their products can you tell me...we will use hawaiian shine as an example: Is this product really a wax? or just a marketing scheme for a ...wet shine look? If it is really a wax, how does it compare to a product such as megs ultimate wax?
 
Protection Detail $75+

On a daily basis, exterior vehicle surfaces are exposed to environmental and industrial contamination (Brake dust, bird droppings, tree sap, water spots, etc). Carnauba waxes and paint sealants act as a sacrificial barrier protecting vehicle surfaces from damage.

  • A hand wash is performed.
  • Plastic, rubber and vinyl trim is cleaned and conditioned.
  • Metal trim and stainless steel exhausts tips will be polished and protected.
  • Door seals are cleaned and conditioned.
  • A layer of carnauba wax or paint sealant is applied to exterior paint and glass.
  • Wheels are protected using a polymer wheel sealant
How well do you like your friends and how well are they compensating you for your detailing services? You should probably consider decontaminating the paint before performing a Protection Detail. I do not like to perform the Protection Detail on a vehicle that has not been decontaminated in the last 6 months.

To the average person washing the vehicle and applying a spray wax to the paint is considered a wash and wax. To an AutoGeek it means protecting every inch of the exterior no matter the surface. I takes me 3 - 4 hours to perform a Protection Detail depending on the size of the vehicle.
 
There are as many interpretations of "wash & wax" as there are members here. You need to define what YOUR definition is.
 
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