What do you look for in a wax (or LSP)?
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wytstang
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Thats what I voted for lol. Having a white car #16 and WG DGS are my go to with an awesome coat of Paste Glaz . But my wifes car get souveran and SS II often except in the summers. Summers it's #16 on everything. Durability is very very important to me during the summer. I need something that can take the heat and keep rocking a good look. #16 fits that bill to the T, it's just so unbearable here during the summer that I won't wash the cars for about 2 months and even then it's only at night.:cheers:
All the above! LOL....
z06meister
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All of the above. If I had to pick only 2 it would be wet look and durability.
raddogz
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I have a truck so I tend to find myself a little lazier than when I had a sedan. When I mean lazier - I mean something that will give me the wet look, ease of use (wipe on and wipe off), and slickness.
I still go the whole nine yards twice a year and wind up spending an entire weekend devoted to just detailing the auto.
Sealant is great - still use it but it just doesn't give me enough WOW factor that I'm looking for in my own picky way.
I still go the whole nine yards twice a year and wind up spending an entire weekend devoted to just detailing the auto.
Sealant is great - still use it but it just doesn't give me enough WOW factor that I'm looking for in my own picky way.
Thats how I am with my truck lol, I've stuck to using only AW on it for almost a year now mainly for ease of use and quickness, the fact that it looks awesome and I get good durability out of it is icing on the cake.
Speed6 Guy
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The bottom line for me is does this stuff go on easy and come off easy. I am not saying that it can look like poop after but if it takes me an extra 2 hour to wax i would be broke.
Mr Dream Machines
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Well the finish is all in the pre polishing and post polishing prep, not the LSP
Maybe with the expensive waxes that I won't pay for, you'll get more wetness and depth.
Maybe with the expensive waxes that I won't pay for, you'll get more wetness and depth.
TOGWT
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Best wax or Sealant:
Is there a best? In my opinion- No!
While its true many of the chemicals used in the formulation of car care products are the same (or at least very similar) Having used a variety of different products I can tell one from another and field testing shows that not all have the durability either, some simply out perform others in many categories and react differently when applied to different paint types, paint hardness, colour, or varied paint surface conditions.
Ultimately the best wax or sealant will prove to be the one that best meets its user's objectives. If a product is not working for you experiment until you find one that’s suitable for your needs.
There is no one product that can produce all of the properties for an optically perfect shine, however; for high surface gloss and surface reflectance-a polymer sealant, which also provides durability. Detailing enthusiasts consider shine as only one attribute of a protective wax or sealant. They are equally concerned with; ease of application, resistance to abrasion, atmospheric contamination and weathering.
a) For depth of shine - Carnauba wax (also provides a sacrificial and easily renewable barrier against airborne contaminants (Swissvax, Zymol, Souveran)
b) For clarity - long term durability and protectionapply a polymer sealant (Zaino Z2PRO™ + ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive) to a carefully prepared level, clean paint surface.
c)Optically perfect shine – apply a optically clear polymer sealant and add a Carnauba wax, a Glaze or
Zaino Z-8™ Grand Finale Spray Seal as a last step product (LSP).
d)High heat conditions - a polymer sealant, one that includes a UVR protection (Zaino) and a sacrificial wax (Collinite (actually a polymer/wax) Liquid Insulator Wax (No. 845)
e)Harsh winter – Klasse All In One (AIO) Klasse Sealant Glaze (SG) x 2, Collinite # 845 Liquid Insulator Wax or # 476s Super Doublecoat Auto Wax x 2. If you apply a final layer of wax without buffing it will provide more protection / durability (especial for vehicle storage purposes).
f) The aesthetics of a vehicle appearance is very subjective to say the least, the only best wax or sealant that really matters is what looks 'best' to you and meets the criteria you set for it.
g) The final result can only be as good as the surface it’s applied to. It really is all dependants upon, process over product; 85% preparation, 5% product suitability, 7% application methodology and the balance is in the ‘guy’ of the beholder. The other variables are; a detailer’s knowledge of paint type, experience with a given product and skill level and experience with machine polisher.
Is there a best? In my opinion- No!
While its true many of the chemicals used in the formulation of car care products are the same (or at least very similar) Having used a variety of different products I can tell one from another and field testing shows that not all have the durability either, some simply out perform others in many categories and react differently when applied to different paint types, paint hardness, colour, or varied paint surface conditions.
Ultimately the best wax or sealant will prove to be the one that best meets its user's objectives. If a product is not working for you experiment until you find one that’s suitable for your needs.
There is no one product that can produce all of the properties for an optically perfect shine, however; for high surface gloss and surface reflectance-a polymer sealant, which also provides durability. Detailing enthusiasts consider shine as only one attribute of a protective wax or sealant. They are equally concerned with; ease of application, resistance to abrasion, atmospheric contamination and weathering.
a) For depth of shine - Carnauba wax (also provides a sacrificial and easily renewable barrier against airborne contaminants (Swissvax, Zymol, Souveran)
b) For clarity - long term durability and protectionapply a polymer sealant (Zaino Z2PRO™ + ZFX™ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive) to a carefully prepared level, clean paint surface.
c)Optically perfect shine – apply a optically clear polymer sealant and add a Carnauba wax, a Glaze or
Zaino Z-8™ Grand Finale Spray Seal as a last step product (LSP).
d)High heat conditions - a polymer sealant, one that includes a UVR protection (Zaino) and a sacrificial wax (Collinite (actually a polymer/wax) Liquid Insulator Wax (No. 845)
e)Harsh winter – Klasse All In One (AIO) Klasse Sealant Glaze (SG) x 2, Collinite # 845 Liquid Insulator Wax or # 476s Super Doublecoat Auto Wax x 2. If you apply a final layer of wax without buffing it will provide more protection / durability (especial for vehicle storage purposes).
f) The aesthetics of a vehicle appearance is very subjective to say the least, the only best wax or sealant that really matters is what looks 'best' to you and meets the criteria you set for it.
g) The final result can only be as good as the surface it’s applied to. It really is all dependants upon, process over product; 85% preparation, 5% product suitability, 7% application methodology and the balance is in the ‘guy’ of the beholder. The other variables are; a detailer’s knowledge of paint type, experience with a given product and skill level and experience with machine polisher.
Mr Dream Machines
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your probably right (as usual)
In my case - for depth of shine a wax is probably best but glare micro finish followed by three applications of pro polish as a sealant provides some great depth and fantastic 12 month minimum protection
The main reason people don't like the brand is that they don't use the whole system or use each product properly. It's totally different than using abrasives
For clarity - aussie gold showroom glaze and driven quick spray concentrate by cheap orbital and MF bonnet - after each wash
six months durability as well
High heat - definately got to be permagard. permanent reactive coating stands up to it all
In my case - for depth of shine a wax is probably best but glare micro finish followed by three applications of pro polish as a sealant provides some great depth and fantastic 12 month minimum protection
The main reason people don't like the brand is that they don't use the whole system or use each product properly. It's totally different than using abrasives
For clarity - aussie gold showroom glaze and driven quick spray concentrate by cheap orbital and MF bonnet - after each wash
six months durability as well
High heat - definately got to be permagard. permanent reactive coating stands up to it all