What do you wish to see in the future of detailing?

Bob, I don't know what the hell you said. But I like your result, I agree!
 
Hammer77 said:
Bob, I don't know what the hell you said.
But I like your result, I agree!
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Was it the below?
{It left the interwebs for a moment :confused:}

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I wish to see more breakthroughs
in the field of Materials Science.

TO WIT:
"Tunable" Peptide Nano-Structures


(Peptides are strings of polymers
composed of amino acids.)

-By allowing/("tuning") these particular
polymers to continuously reorganize
their sequences...(think cross-linking on
steroids)...they will eventually form
syn-nanopolymers (paint sealers) that
are best suited...more attuned, as it were...
to their environment.


•Result?
-Once & Done Forever LSPs!!!

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Bob
 
The matte clear coat is a series of ridges instead of the flat of the traditional clearcoat. In a lot of ways it's like the haze from a heavy compound that gives the paint the dull appearance but on purpose or fine grit sanding marks but uniform across the board, at least from the sense of the ridges in the paint. In theory, the right kind of abrasive technology, such as non - uniform abrasive particles that each only diminish to a certain point as well as the right material in a polishing pad can achieve a consistent matte finish. The problem is, is consistent results. Clearcoat just has to be levelled to create shine. Matte paint, you want defect removal but uniformly not levelled.

Other problem is removal of old LSP. Modern sealants and coatings are tough. How do you guarantee removal? Traditional methods state for a quick light polish. But with matte paint, your only option is hopefully a chemical cleaner that will remove it but it's not a guarantee. If you have a matte paint wax on your car, you're gonna have to wait for a few months after the expected durability of the previous LSP and toss in some strong degreaser for multiple washes during that period, and multiple wipe downs with a strong enough body shop prep liquid. Then you can coat your car with a matte paint coating. I find the subject of matte paint fascinating, hence why I'd love to see a matte paint compound and finishing polish one day. I think it'd open up the markets a lot more for detailers and give the weekend warriors who have matte cars real options for paint care.
 
More self-healing protection systems that are more affordable and practical for my daily driver.
 
a coating that truly lasts 2+ years and doesn't require ANY topping and doesn't have any drop off in beading/sheeting
 
The only self heating coating I know if is Feynlab and even then it doesn't seem like they'd sell it to non-professionals.
 
If I interpret your initial question correctly I think you are asking where is detailing headed in the future, not as much tactically but more conceptually. In my opinion I would guess it comes down to paint technology progression and materials use, both inside and outside vehicles.

For example, Monica said she desires the return of "real paint" again. With the EPA stuff, that ain't gonna happen but where is it headed?

2 things I would like to see for us to remain progressive...1.) The IDA to grow in both membership and professional stature. A truly honest trade association that represents the interests of the detailing trade.

And 2.) a top shelf periodical published monthly and dedicated strictly to detailing. Basically an e-magazine that includes articles of interest for the DIY detailer at home working on their own vehicles all the way up to the high end pro businesses. In this online age, I would envision, like I said, an e-magazine but one that offers a wide range of information in ALL aspects of detailing. This product may even be an IDA publication but one with a transparent agenda towards bettering the profession and not bought by any specific corporate pursuits.

Now I realize many may think "e-mag? don't need it". This forum, a few others, numerous blogs, company website info etc. provide all the info we need...right? Maybe, but a centered publication from the highest authorities discussing tips, tricks, new current technologies, near future technologies, the "science" behind XYZ, etc. might feed those existing forums and discussion locations and help grow the industry. I can imagine someone starting a thread here titled "New IDA mag article" and propagating further discussion and perspectives here (and elsewhere) beyond what the author brought out.

I don't know. Just some thoughts but in my opinion I would like to see us on the cutting edge of new information gathering and sharing. We, here, are the rabid, involved and most passionate in the biz and we always want more info. I am not in any way sounding the death knell for places like AGO...au contraire. I think professional associations and an authoritative publication would bolster discussion here. I come to this forum daily for information and personal expression on a wide range of subjects. Just think of the banter back and forth resulting from the breakthrough article!!!

Now having said all of that, I am not so naive as to think the corporate agenda would remain seperated. That's ok however I would like the IDA and any subsequent publication to at least remain vehicles that provide me with information to spend my money wisely in an educated way.
 
Ernie Mccracken said:
The holy grail is a true touchless wash that actually cleans the paint. My guess is that it will be steam. Not like now where they chase the wand around like a cat toy, but a huge volume of hot vapor that will strip a car bare in 10 minutes without using any chemicals.
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I saw on AMMO NYCs YouTube channel he spoke to someone out of Qutar I believe who was using steam to wash cars because of the water restrictions. I think, I will have to watch it again.
 
I am excited to see how many layers deep we can go!

We used to have single stage paint. Then we got clearcoat to protect the paint. Then we got ceramic coatings to protect the clearcoat. Now we have coatings for our ceramic coating. FATAL FLAW - there's nothing to protect to our coating's.. coating!

It's starting to feel like the razor blade war.
 
Ernie Mccracken said:
I am excited to see how many layers deep we can go!

We used to have single stage paint. Then we got clearcoat to protect the paint. Then we got ceramic coatings to protect the clearcoat. Now we have coatings for our ceramic coating. FATAL FLAW - there's nothing to protect to our coating's.. coating!

It's starting to feel like the razor blade war.
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It's a vicious cycle that I very much like being a part of hahaha.
 
A major cultural, paradigm shift in how we care for cars with the detail services becoming the norm rather than local car wash.

Tom
 
What would be nice is an optional two part system. A layer of extremely good protection, and an optional topcoat that is self healing and extremely hydrophobic lasting for a year per application. The baselayer should require compounding to remove and lasting a crazy long time like 5 years, with the optional topcoat self healing from any marring and swirls in the sun but optional application. Apply chemical paint cleanser that will clean off the top coat but bond and repair the base coat with the same chemical consistency, so not like Essence Plus but the exact same chemical properties as the coating. Reapply topcoat, and bring back the crazy sheeting and beading. For those who love touching their coatings, create a hybrid sealant and silica mixture wax of sorts, apply once a month to give it that insane crazy shine. Add in a waterless/rinseless wash that is a mix of the same polymers and silica as the hybrid sealant topper. That would be a great system. No matter what you do, you have your basecoat intact and lets you touch your car.

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It would be nice as well with the basecoat layer adding 5 microns for an application so that once you do your first polish and coat, you no longer polish or compound clearcoat at all just the basecoat silica.
 
1. Durable wash & coat LSP products - like Hydrofoam. Really, these make everything super easy.

2. Cordless Polishers

3. Cordless Master Blaster type blower.

4. More / better tire coatings

That's about it. Stuff will get better - but I don't see any radical change.
 
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