What happened to my Megs DA MF pad?

I had one delaminate while using it (3"), I think I had way too much product on it and the glue let go (similar to LC Hydrotech if you use them while wet). Let the place where I bought it know and they sent me a new one. So possibly that was the issue. They do get quite warm while in use. Haven't had a failure since (and I've revised my priming technique to ensure I don't oversaturate the pad)
 
Yea maybe you did over saturate it like crazy..I mean D300 is a light pink..how come your pad is like a dark burgandy. you working on a single stage paint?
 
Yup it comes burgundy. The product was applied as 2 pea sized drops.

Just got off phone with Megs so lets see what they say when they call back.

And the video is the one with Mike Phillips and the 2 Megs dudes. Its on Autogeek.net with the product listing page. They run the machine with the air.
 
seems like a defected pad. i dont think the fact your GG at speed 4 when cleaning has anything to do with it, since its air your using. BTW, how much air pressure did you use when air cleaning pad???
 
Matt575 said:
And the video is the one with Mike Phillips and the 2 Megs dudes. Its on Autogeek.net with the product listing page. They run the machine with the air.
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Im pretty sure the MOL video runs theirs too. I will go watch it again. I would turn it down to speed 1 though. I have air cleaned my pads at least 75 times (about 45 cutting pad and 30 finishing pad) without any problems. I also dry my foam pad with the machine at speed 1 while in a trash can to catch the splatter.
 
VIP Reflections said:
seems like a defected pad. i dont think the fact your GG at speed 4 when cleaning has anything to do with it, since its air your using. BTW, how much air pressure did you use when air cleaning pad???
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I would bet that is too much for the pad. Speed 4 is pretty fast for no resistance.
 
Directly from MOL "Using the new Megs DA MF System" thread. That pad is spinning.

Using Meguiar's D/A Microfiber Correction System - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online


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I was looking at the pad wrong..i thought that was the Microfiber side of the pad...thats why i was asking why is it so dark
 
M.P. Cobra Fan said:
Interesting. Damn. I still don't know if I would do it at speed 4.
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Neither would I. I honestly think that is what happened to Matt's pad. That is why I asked him in the first place what speed he was using.

The only other thing I could think of is maybe he got the pad too hot with too much pressure or too long a buffing cycle or not cleaning enough.
 
M.P. Cobra Fan said:
Interesting. Damn. I still don't know if I would do it at speed 4.
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Do you clean foam pads with a conditioning brush while it's running? How about wool pads?

I would argue that the compressed air puts just as much of a "load" on the pad as a pad brush or spur does, and that's been an established procedure for decades... :dunno:
 
Yes I do. I guess I never thought about the air putting much of a load on the pad. I don't use compressed air. Good point.
 
5.4 Shelby said:
Neither would I. I honestly think that is what happened to Matt's pad. That is why I asked him in the first place what speed he was using.

The only other thing I could think of is maybe he got the pad too hot with too much pressure or too long a buffing cycle or not cleaning enough.
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I was only halfway through the car. I was using a lot of pressure and was moving slowly because the defects were HORRIBLE (I had a talk with my mom about her car care). I cleaned it after every section.

I talked to Megs and told them about it and they are going to replace the pad. They wanted pics to show the QA people. They were really great. Only problem was that the pads are on backorder! :(
 
Matt575 said:
I was only halfway through the car. I was using a lot of pressure and was moving slowly because the defects were HORRIBLE (I had a talk with my mom about her car care). I cleaned it after every section.

I talked to Megs and told them about it and they are going to replace the pad. They wanted pics to show the QA people. They were really great. Only problem was that the pads are on backorder! :(
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I sent you a PM.

I had a similar problem with LC foam pads when I first got my GG. I burnt a few of them up. Too much product and not cleaning the pads enough. They got real hot and melted in the middle. That GG has a lot of power.

Glad to hear Megs is taking care of you. I figured they would.
 
Matt575 said:
The system is built specifically for a DA
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Sorry, my bad.. I hadn't noticed that it was the MF DA.

(I was thinking about the burgandy rotary cutting pad that says you can haze the paint up if you used it on a DA)
 
Matt575 said:
I talked to Megs and told them about it and they are going to replace the pad. They wanted pics to show the QA people. They were really great. Only problem was that the pads are on backorder! :(
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Sorry to hear about the pad failure.

I had one pre-production pad fail on me but I was also using it above the recommended speed setting and non-Meguairs backing plate. Since then I have not had a single one fail and I've used them on multiple cars.

You don't need to run the machine to clean the pad with air...the air itself will spin the pad really fast by simply angling the flow of air at the pad....which is what is illustrated in the pic above.


Megs customer service is always very good, just to bad they are on back order.




If you plan to be up in my area anytime soon stop by and I'll hook you up with a pad or two. ;)


Rasky
 
IF you haven't watched this video yet, give it a watch, Meguiar's says our video turned out better than the one they made...


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhJYFLgIjhE]YouTube - Autogeek.net - New Meguiars Microfiber DA System[/video]


I've de-laminated the hook and loop material from the foam in the past, usually from running the DA too fast with too much pressure...

Watch for Jason's official recommendations on,

  • OPM's
  • Arm Speed
  • Downward Pressure
  • Work Area Size

:)
 
RaskyR1 said:
Sorry to hear about the pad failure.

I had one pre-production pad fail on me but I was also using it above the recommended speed setting and non-Meguairs backing plate. Since then I have not had a single one fail and I've used them on multiple cars.

You don't need to run the machine to clean the pad with air...the air itself will spin the pad really fast by simply angling the flow of air at the pad....which is what is illustrated in the pic above.


Megs customer service is always very good, just to bad they are on back order.




If you plan to be up in my area anytime soon stop by and I'll hook you up with a pad or two. ;)


Rasky
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Thank You for the very generous offer!! My kit came with 2 pads so I just switched to the other and finished the job.

I finished the job by leaving the machine off and blowing the pad. Worked fine and the same as if on.

Someone asked what pressure my air compressor was at. It was set at 90psi.


Thanks again for the generous offer!
 
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