What Happened!?!?

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Mnlc90

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I didn't exactly buy the highest quality, but it started out looking great. I first used Mothers' Clay Bar kit, then used a Harbor Freight DA polisher with their polishing pad and Meguiars' polish swirl remover. Then the HF DA polisher with Griots' Paint Sealant. When I was finished....it looked GREAT!!!

Then a few days later, with the DP Wash & Gloss, I first did a waterless wash as directed. A few days later, I did a rinseless wash as directed. The MF towels I used were Meguiars.

Then it happened....as I walked out of work, beautiful sunny day, and proud of my truck.....flippin' swirl marks!!!! ARGH!!!

Thoughts on what happened? I'm thinking it was the MF towels?
 
A lot has happened and there could be number of reasons. You will need to at least walk us thru step by step.
 
Pictures are also a great help.

After all your steps

I would suggested wiping with IPA, getting a light like the Brinkmann, looking at your results. Then if your happy with them, then seal them.
 
Did you perform an IPA wipe down after polishing?

Maybe your technique on washing the car is flawed?
 
My guess would be one of the rinseless or waterless washes swirled up the paint again. :(
 
Im guessing that the products used covered up the swirls instead of eliminating it.
 
I would bet dollars to doughnuts the swirls were never removed. Something either filled them or the light wasn't right to notice initially. Swirls just don't come back that fast unless your using terrible wash technique, light scratches maybe.

Did you initially do a 50/50 test spot. So you can see swirls / no swirls in the same lighting?

By the way IMO, DP waterless is horrible.
 
i agree with bad lighting and swirls were never removed. it happen on my first time. a silver and a black car. both were spotless at night that day then a week after under street lighting. i was cursing at the car.
 
I have been wanting to order the Brinkmann light but they have been out of stock. AG and Detailing in Irvine, CA

I called to ask why? and they said the company is currently out of stock.
 
When I called AG they said the back order for Brinkmann had to do with problems meeting some kind of requirement. The wait was still supposed to be a fair amount of time before they had them back in stock.
 
Czapski said:
When I called AG they said the back order for Brinkmann had to do with problems meeting some kind of requirement. The wait was still supposed to be a fair amount of time before they had them back in stock.
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Check out LED Lenser. One of my clients gave me one of their mini flashlights as a gift because he saw all the time I spend going around the vehicle with different lights. This little thing kicks out almost as much light as my Brinkman... its insane. And they have tons of other sizes/styles too.

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Thank you all for the help. I will take your suggestions. Quick question though. Will I harm the clear coat if I do this too much?
 
Polish is really fine liquid sand paper, so you can't polish forever. Over and over again, because your a little by little your sanding of CC. (I believe)

That's why after you polish you seal the heck out of it, sealants, opti coat, even clear bras

Anybody can correct me if I'm wrong.
 
swanicyouth said:
I would bet dollars to doughnuts the swirls were never removed. Something either filled them or the light wasn't right to notice initially. Swirls just don't come back that fast unless your using terrible wash technique, light scratches maybe.

Did you initially do a 50/50 test spot. So you can see swirls / no swirls in the same lighting?

By the way IMO, DP waterless is horrible.
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Why you hating on DP?
 
Mnlc90 said:
I didn't exactly buy the highest quality, but it started out looking great. I first used Mothers' Clay Bar kit, then used a Harbor Freight DA polisher with their polishing pad and Meguiars' polish swirl remover. Then the HF DA polisher with Griots' Paint Sealant. When I was finished....it looked GREAT!!!

Then a few days later, with the DP Wash & Gloss, I first did a waterless wash as directed. A few days later, I did a rinseless wash as directed. The MF towels I used were Meguiars.

Then it happened....as I walked out of work, beautiful sunny day, and proud of my truck.....flippin' swirl marks!!!! ARGH!!!

Thoughts on what happened? I'm thinking it was the MF towels?
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Combination of a few things. The HF polishing pad doesn't exactly have that much cut, and it's mediocre quality at best, nor does the Megs polish swirl remover, it's not very heavy in the cut department, so basically you didn't remove many swirls while at the same time filling them in with the polishing oils. Secondly, there could be numerous things that happen when performing a waterless wash, and even a rinseless wash, so you could've added more swirls in either or both of those. Megs MF towels are also not the best as the knap isn't too thick, so at the very least get the Pro-Force from Sam's.
 
ayankeeman1968 said:
Why you hating on DP?
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I'm not hating on DP, I'm hating on DP Waterless Wash because its just bad. I have several DP products (wheel cleaner, MF cleaner, interior cleaner, pad cleaner, Extreme Foam,etc..) and I'm very happy with all of them.

If I recall correctly, DP was one of the first couple waterless washes out. It needs a v2. It smears and doesn't flash dry. Its sticky as well and leave haze on the paint. Its just not good. I've tried almost every waterless product out there, and that one just lags behind.

I'm just being honest. If PBMG makes a product that's no good, how can they revise it if we are not honest with our opinions or reviews?
 
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