What I want to see in 2019

[DetailZeus]

A really great combo is Essence topped with IGL Ecocoat Premier. I think everyone is scared off by Premier’s high price but when you consider it lasts 12Xs longer than other SiO2 toppers it’s actually cheap. Got this tip from Justin. Got to give credit where credit is due.

Just a tip: IGL Ecocoat Premier is only for people that don’t want to “play” with their paint. It lasts so long you start hoping it will wear off so you can put something else on. No kidding.

That's exactly what I'm looking for. More than happy to apply a spray & wipe 2, 3 in a year as long as I don't have to re-prep the paint. I just need something a little more "robust" then what I'm seeing from other Si02 sprays and old school WOWA's. Thank You!

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

It seems hydro silex gets no love round here but i put 3 coats down 1 week apart as recommended. Going on 2 months still strong beading and we get a ton of rain. I’m not expecting 6 months but 3 is a given and expecting 4. Manufacture says loves to be topped off with more. I have Shine Supply Clutch which is a 10% sio2 topper. Stronger than most sio2 sealants. Haven’t had chance to use but it touts 4-6 months durability. This sounds like route for you as most sio2 toppers can top each other. You can get either for 30-40 dollars a bottle.


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[Klasse Act]

It seems hydro silex gets no love round here but i put 3 coats down 1 week apart as recommended. Going on 2 months still strong beading and we get a ton of rain. I’m not expecting 6 months but 3 is a given and expecting 4. Manufacture says loves to be topped off with more. I have Shine Supply Clutch which is a 10% sio2 topper. Stronger than most sio2 sealants. Haven’t had chance to use but it touts 4-6 months durability. This sounds like route for you as most sio2 toppers can top each other. You can get either for 30-40 dollars a bottle.


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Hydrosilex doesn't get alot of love here due to it not being sold here yet but I know of yet another 10% Sio2 spray that just came on the market, it seems the other products are 5% Sio2. It's worth looking around guys

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[DetailZeus]

It seems hydro silex gets no love round here but i put 3 coats down 1 week apart as recommended. Going on 2 months still strong beading and we get a ton of rain. I’m not expecting 6 months but 3 is a given and expecting 4. Manufacture says loves to be topped off with more. I have Shine Supply Clutch which is a 10% sio2 topper. Stronger than most sio2 sealants. Haven’t had chance to use but it touts 4-6 months durability. This sounds like route for you as most sio2 toppers can top each other. You can get either for 30-40 dollars a bottle.


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I'm skeptical about Si02 percentages. I honestly don't care if it has Si02 at all. I really just want the best protection against bugs, water spots, bird bombs and grime in a "set it and forget it" format. I've just been warming up to the spray & wipe application recently since time has become a priority. These vehicles can't get washed every week so traditional wowo sealants have served me well. But I'd love to find a wowa with equivalent performance if I'm not gonna do a coating. Here's what I'm eyeing:

-Sonax PNS
-Gyeon Cancoat
-Meguiar's Fast Finish
-IGL Ecocoat Premier
-Yet to be released Mother's spray "coating"

When the vehicles do get washed they get a complete pressure rinse, 2 bucket wash with prewash if necessary. Can definitely manage full application of the LSP 2 or 3 times a year with the front clip and mirror "bug areas" quickly topped up and extra time or two in the summer.

 

[Klasse Act]

The IGL Premier sounds incredible, it's in my collection along with Hydrosilex Recharge, Meg's ceramic spray wax, TAC system Waterglass, Adam's Guard and Gloss, Beadmaker and my own "FrankenDetailer"...yes I have a problem and proud of it! Oh wait, Guz is sending me some stuff too, LOL

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[acuRAS82]

Hydrosilex doesn't get alot of love here due to it not being sold here yet but I know of yet another 10% Sio2 spray that just came on the market, it seems the other products are 5% Sio2. It's worth looking around guys

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[SWETM]

When you are going to be reapplying a LSP either it's something like Gyeon CanCoat or IGL Premier or a sealant or wax. I think that the cleaner you get your car the better and the more you get out of the new LSP layer. So without the need to polish you decon wash the paint as clean as possible. I start with an alkaline based degreaser and a tar remover. Then do a test spot with an iron remover to see how it reacts. Behind the front wheel is where iron particals bonds mostly. One product if I could get it here in Sweden would be a prep wash. McKees 37 Coating Prep Auto Wash or Griots Garage BOSS foaming surface prep wash and it can be more. Prewash foam and PW clean rinsing it off and then the prep wash and tar remover and iron remover if needed. In that order and if you where to want to do a 2bm wash I would go with carpro reset or gyeon bathe or gtechnic g-wash. Then a panel wipe product wipe down before application of the Sio2 product. Depending on the contaminants on the paint you could be useing a water spot remover and claying if really necessary. But on a LSP that have not totaly failed a thorough decon wash is doing the prep work without the need to clay. And do the baggie test before and after the iron remover and see where it gets you. A mild clay bar or fine grade clay alternatives would be safe with a great claylube. And it's you who determind how thorough you want to be. You would only shave off on the longevity of the new LSP layer and lock in the contaminants if you have any. But when applying a LSP with a longevity of 6 to 12 months range it will be worth to do the decon wash 2-3 times a year. And reapply before it fails. You will notice a degrading to the and then it's time to plan in the decon wash and reapply it. It's very independent when this accurs.

IGL Premier looks very interesting.

 

[The Guz]

It seems hydro silex gets no love round here but i put 3 coats down 1 week apart as recommended. Going on 2 months still strong beading and we get a ton of rain. I’m not expecting 6 months but 3 is a given and expecting 4. Manufacture says loves to be topped off with more. I have Shine Supply Clutch which is a 10% sio2 topper. Stronger than most sio2 sealants. Haven’t had chance to use but it touts 4-6 months durability. This sounds like route for you as most sio2 toppers can top each other. You can get either for 30-40 dollars a bottle.


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It does not get a lot of love for the fact that some of us found out it did not perform that well. Those of us that tried it did not even bother looking at V2. I for one gave my bottle of V1 away on Autopia and never looked back.

 

[minerigger]

I'm skeptical about Si02 percentages. I honestly don't care if it has Si02 at all. I really just want the best protection against bugs, water spots, bird bombs and grime in a "set it and forget it" format. I've just been warming up to the spray & wipe application recently since time has become a priority. These vehicles can't get washed every week so traditional wowo sealants have served me well. But I'd love to find a wowa with equivalent performance if I'm not gonna do a coating. Here's what I'm eyeing:

-Sonax PNS
-Gyeon Cancoat
-Meguiar's Fast Finish
-IGL Ecocoat Premier
-Yet to be released Mother's spray "coating"

When the vehicles do get washed they get a complete pressure rinse, 2 bucket wash with prewash if necessary. Can definitely manage full application of the LSP 2 or 3 times a year with the front clip and mirror "bug areas" quickly topped up and extra time or two in the summer.

Of that list I would say in this order for 3

1.) IGL Ecocoat Premier: super easy to apply and is supposed to be better with water spots than traditional coatings

2.) Sonax PNS: again easy to apply but is not going to be slick or sexy but it does have a great following and a record to back it

3.) Gyeon Cancoat: definitely a spray and wipe but it is a coating so high spots need to be watched for. Of the 3 it has the potential to be the most difficult to apply not that they are that hard. Has a good following but water spots also tend to be a bigger issue with the a coating.

IMO after playing with all 3 of these I would go with the IGL. It’s crazy simple. The more coats you apply the better it does and longer it is supposed to last.



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[DetailZeus]

When you are going to be reapplying a LSP either it's something like Gyeon CanCoat or IGL Premier or a sealant or wax. I think that the cleaner you get your car the better and the more you get out of the new LSP layer. So without the need to polish you decon wash the paint as clean as possible. I start with an alkaline based degreaser and a tar remover. Then do a test spot with an iron remover to see how it reacts. Behind the front wheel is where iron particals bonds mostly. One product if I could get it here in Sweden would be a prep wash. McKees 37 Coating Prep Auto Wash or Griots Garage BOSS foaming surface prep wash and it can be more. Prewash foam and PW clean rinsing it off and then the prep wash and tar remover and iron remover if needed. In that order and if you where to want to do a 2bm wash I would go with carpro reset or gyeon bathe or gtechnic g-wash. Then a panel wipe product wipe down before application of the Sio2 product. Depending on the contaminants on the paint you could be useing a water spot remover and claying if really necessary. But on a LSP that have not totaly failed a thorough decon wash is doing the prep work without the need to clay. And do the baggie test before and after the iron remover and see where it gets you. A mild clay bar or fine grade clay alternatives would be safe with a great claylube. And it's you who determind how thorough you want to be. You would only shave off on the longevity of the new LSP layer and lock in the contaminants if you have any. But when applying a LSP with a longevity of 6 to 12 months range it will be worth to do the decon wash 2-3 times a year. And reapply before it fails. You will notice a degrading to the and then it's time to plan in the decon wash and reapply it. It's very independent when this accurs.

IGL Premier looks very interesting.

Good suggestions, thanks. I like the idea of doing an iron remover test spot. I could do a prep-all wipe down before reapplying but honestly this is something I'd most likely skip. Already have a good degreaser in the arsenal and I'll probably add a new prewash next year. Claying I only do before polishing (unless spot claying) as to not worry about marring from the clay mitt. Hopefully whatever LSP I choose is good enough that it shouldn't need claying until the annual detail.

Luckily I don't get as much tar as you do in Sweden!

 

[DetailZeus]

Of that list I would say in this order for 3

1.) IGL Ecocoat Premier: super easy to apply and is supposed to be better with water spots than traditional coatings

2.) Sonax PNS: again easy to apply but is not going to be slick or sexy but it does have a great following and a record to back it

3.) Gyeon Cancoat: definitely a spray and wipe but it is a coating so high spots need to be watched for. Of the 3 it has the potential to be the most difficult to apply not that they are that hard. Has a good following but water spots also tend to be a bigger issue with the a coating.

IMO after playing with all 3 of these I would go with the IGL. It’s crazy simple. The more coats you apply the better it does and longer it is supposed to last.



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This is great feedback thanks

 

[DBAILEY]

I get excellent results from Carpro Essence followed by Essence Plus. I know Essence Plus has been a so-so product regarding coating repair. And Essence Plus has been reported many times that it does not come anywhere close to the one year durability when used as stand alone LSP. However, when you combine the 2 products you will get something that will last close to a year. The fillers in both products will also give the smoothest looking paint surface you've ever had. Essence Plus is also way easier to apply than Cancoat.

 

[Eldorado2k]

or new girl putting her Starbucks on the roof.

This should never happen under any circumstance. Seriously how dumb could she be to do that on your car? I don’t care how good she looks. She should know better after knowing you for 1 day not to ever be doing something like that.Lol.

I don't own that car anymore but it was black Subie paint too, I died on the inside. It's the Uber mentality, not many people own a car and if they do it's a beater. Not to derail my own thread...

Something funny happened to me the following day after I jokingly said that to you... Warning: This may sound a bit weird to anyone who’s dense or lacks a sense of humor, try to bare with me or better yet don’t read because this is meant for DetailZeus and the people with a sense of humor. Lol.

...Ok, so the next day a friend of mine decides to show up to my house completely unannounced while I’m detailing the H2 Hummer, and to top it off he’s with some chick he just met. So it was pretty bad timing for me because I was supposed to be on somewhat of a time schedule with the Hummer, but I didn’t want to be rude to my friend who I hadn’t seen in a while so I talked with him and the girl for a bit and then left them alone in the mancave while I went back to work on the Hummer... Btw the time I took chilling with them led to near disaster on the Hummer because it led to water spots all over the worst possible vehicle you could have water spots on because of the sheer size of the H2. I had to work extra hard just to remove all the water spots.

But anyways, the funny part happened [not really funny but I couldn’t help but laugh due to the circumstance] when I came back in the house and for some unexplainable reason walked in and found the girl with 1 of my grade A microfiber towels that are the ones I take extreme care of because not only are they expensive, but they don’t even make them anymore. [Meguiars Ultimate Wipes]

She was cleaning her hands or using it to clean something [I can’t remember exactly what she was using it for but it was completely out of line and the 1st thing I noticed when I walked in]... So my 1st thought was “oh hell no, what is this girl doing with my freakin Ultimate Wipe”?! Lol. But of course I had to keep it cool and didn’t say anything about it and all I could think of was what I had joked with you about the previous day in this thread. Lmao.

I went back out after a bit to continue on the Hummer and my friend text me to say he was ready to leave, and when I walked back in the girl once again had my precious microfiber with her and this time she was using it to remove some makeup from her face! Can you believe that! My goodness, all I could do was SMHlol.

She butchered my good towel and it stinks like perfume too.

Thanks for jinxing me DetailZeus. It’s all your fault.lol.

 

[SWETM]

Lmao Eldorado2K!

 

[Eldorado2k]

 

[PaulMys]

Something funny happened to me the following day after I jokingly said that to you... Warning: This may sound a bit weird to anyone who’s dense or lacks a sense of humor, try to bare with me or better yet don’t read because this is meant for DetailZeus and the people with a sense of humor. Lol.

...Ok, so the next day a friend of mine decides to show up to my house completely unannounced while I’m detailing the H2 Hummer, and to top it off he’s with some chick he just met. So it was pretty bad timing for me because I was supposed to be on somewhat of a time schedule with the Hummer, but I didn’t want to be rude to my friend who I hadn’t seen in a while so I talked with him and the girl for a bit and then left them alone in the mancave while I went back to work on the Hummer... Btw the time I took chilling with them led to near disaster on the Hummer because it led to water spots all over the worst possible vehicle you could have water spots on because of the sheer size of the H2. I had to work extra hard just to remove all the water spots.

But anyways, the funny part happened [not really funny but I couldn’t help but laugh due to the circumstance] when I came back in the house and for some unexplainable reason walked in and found the girl with 1 of my grade A microfiber towels that are the ones I take extreme care of because not only are they expensive, but they don’t even make them anymore. [Meguiars Ultimate Wipes]

She was cleaning her hands or using it to clean something [I can’t remember exactly what she was using it for but it was completely out of line and the 1st thing I noticed when I walked in]... So my 1st thought was “oh hell no, what is this girl doing with my freakin Ultimate Wipe”?! Lol. But of course I had to keep it cool and didn’t say anything about it and all I could think of was what I had joked with you about the previous day in this thread. Lmao.

I went back out after a bit to continue on the Hummer and my friend text me to say he was ready to leave, and when I walked back in the girl once again had my precious microfiber with her and this time she was using it to remove some makeup from her face! Can you believe that! My goodness, all I could do was SMHlol.

She butchered my good towel and it stinks like perfume too.

Thanks for jinxing me DetailZeus. It’s all your fault.lol.

Should have just went the whole nine yards and got blood all over it as well...............:laughing::laughing:

 

[Eldorado2k]

Should have just went the whole nine yards and got blood all over it as well...............:laughing::laughing:

It just goes to show how good those towels really are because she was glued to it like Linus was to his blue blanket. Lol. She must’ve been like “wow this towel feels unlike anything I’ve ever felt”!
I’m surprised she didn’t try to take it with her... I would’ve drawn the line there and said “hey chick, where do you think you’re going with my freakin Ultimate Wipe”?! Lol.

 

[DetailZeus]

It just goes to show how good those towels really are because she was glued to it like Linus was to his blue blanket. Lol. She must’ve been like “wow this towel feels unlike anything I’ve ever felt”!
I’m surprised she didn’t try to take it with her... I would’ve drawn the line there and said “hey chick, where do you think you’re going with my freakin Ultimate Wipe”?! Lol.

That is too funny! I feel for you! :laughing: Yeah must have been a great towel to be at a strangers house and just start wiping your face with it hah!