What is D300 ?

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I was reading about someone switching from M105 to D300. I used search in the store and came up with nothing, anyone know who makes D300?
 
d300 is meguiars line of microfiber correction system. It is less powerful than m105 in terms of cut. It is usually used with their new microfiber pads
 
Holly Flippin 2 minute answer. Thanks guys!

So after Megs 3000 grit finish sanding pads on the DA I would I be better off with a yellow LCC pad on the PC 7424 or should I try the D300 instead?

I do know Megs recommends their MF Correction system after using 3000 finishing pads, but I seam to be having great results with the "cheap" M105 on a Yellow LCC pad
I only bought a small bottle of M105 though so I need to decide soon.
 
adrynalinjunkie said:
Holly Flippin 2 minute answer. Thanks guys!

So after Megs 3000 grit finish sanding pads on the DA I would I be better off with a yellow LCC pad on the PC 7424 or should I try the D300 instead?

I do know Megs recommends their MF Correction system after using 3000 finishing pads, but I seam to be having great results with the "cheap" M105 on a Yellow LCC pad
I only bought a small bottle of M105 though so I need to decide soon.
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If 105 is working for you, stick with it, as it has more cut than D300.
 
Like Rsurfer said if 105 is working for you stay with it.......but if you like trying different things try D300 with mf pad and compare the results.

then you can it one more step further.....using megs mf cutting pad mix 105 and D300 at 1:1 you'll be surprised at what you can accomplish.
 
D300 works fine for me with wool and foam pads as well.
 
M105 in and of itself has more cut than D300, that's true, but D300 coupled with a microfiber cutting disc has more total cut than M105 on a foam polishing pad. It also creates much less dust, is easier to wipe off, and quite a bit less expensive - it was specifically formulated to work with the microfiber discs on a DA.

If you are DA sanding down to 3000 grit finishing media our recommendation, if you intend to remove those sanding marks with a DA rather than a rotary, is to use D300/DMC5 microfiber cutting disc at speed 4 (the "dialed in" speed for the system), slow arm speed and fairly heavy pressure. If you need more cut, instead of cranking up the tool speed, which seems to be everyone's natural tendency, increase the pressure and really slow down your arm speed while working a smaller area than usual.
 
dad07 said:
Like Rsurfer said if 105 is working for you stay with it.......but if you like trying different things try D300 with mf pad and compare the results.

then you can it one more step further.....using megs mf cutting pad mix 105 and D300 at 1:1 you'll be surprised at what you can accomplish.
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+1

2 dime size dots each on a MF disc will yield nice results.
 
Michael Stoops said:
M105 in and of itself has more cut than D300, that's true, but D300 coupled with a microfiber cutting disc has more total cut than M105 on a foam polishing pad.
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I'm assuming you meant any polishing pad, but possibly thinking specifically a Meguiar's yellow polishing pad? If so, then what about compared to M105 on a maroon Meguiar's cutting pad and/or a Lake Country orange/yellow CSS and flat pads, and a Buff N' Shine yellow/orange? Does the D300 and it's counterpart cutting pad still have more cut than any of the above combo's?

I will guess... that D300 and a micro-fiber cutting pad would have more cut than any of the Lake Country pads I mentioned and more cut than the Buff N' Shine pads I mentioned, but I would not be willing to guess that the D300 combo would have more cut than M105 and a Meguiar's maroon cutting pad combo. That's a stout combo and only a guess on my part.

I have the D300 combo, but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I base my "guessing" on what I've read on forums...which isn't the best way to learn, for sure.
 
And hydro tech cyan pads, those are my go to!
 
Hoytman said:
I'm assuming you meant any polishing pad, but possibly thinking specifically a Meguiar's yellow polishing pad? If so, then what about compared to M105 on a maroon Meguiar's cutting pad and/or a Lake Country orange/yellow CSS and flat pads, and a Buff N' Shine yellow/orange? Does the D300 and it's counterpart cutting pad still have more cut than any of the above combo's?

I will guess... that D300 and a micro-fiber cutting pad would have more cut than any of the Lake Country pads I mentioned and more cut than the Buff N' Shine pads I mentioned, but I would not be willing to guess that the D300 combo would have more cut than M105 and a Meguiar's maroon cutting pad combo. That's a stout combo and only a guess on my part.

I have the D300 combo, but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I base my "guessing" on what I've read on forums...which isn't the best way to learn, for sure.
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Well, since we actually don't recommend using our W7207 maroon cutting pad with a DA the point is almost moot. I can tell you, however, that just before we released the DAMF System we had a few well known, local detailers come by our training garage for some final testing/evaluation. One of them did a test spot using M105 and a W7207 pad first, then tried D300/DMC5 right next to it. When we asked what he thought about it, his comment was basically "well, let's see: I use less product, it makes less dust, and it just now cut every bit as fast. Can I buy some now????" That detailer, by the way, was Joe Fernandez, AKA Superior Shine.

Now, final product and pad selection is going to be dependent on the paint to at least some degree, so we never expect any one combo to always be the best combo so experimentation to some degree is almost always called for. But since you can mix and match liquids and pads, adjust tool speed, arm speed, pressure, etc that means you alter the total cut by huge degrees. Heck, I've even heard of guys using M105 as a finishing polish in some instances, so the possibilities are almost endless!

But since you have to start somewhere with each project, if you're specifically talking about damp sanding with 3000 grit via DA (as adrynalinjunkie is doing in this discussion) and you then want to remove those sanding marks with a DA, our recommendation for a starting point is D300/DMC5, speed 4, moderate to heavy pressure, slow arm speed, small work area. That's what we taught at our NXT Institute training class back in September and it tends to work beautifully.
 
What do you recommend using after that Michael? M205 on like a light cut pad on the DA?

How do you get dust from using M 105 on a primed DA pad?
I am a body shop guy,I know what real dust is! Lol
 
adrynalinjunkie said:
What do you recommend using after that Michael? M205 on like a light cut pad on the DA?

How do you get dust from using M 105 on a primed DA pad?
I am a body shop guy,I know what real dust is! Lol
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What you would use following D300/DMC5 sort of depends on what you're after. Obviously in a simple two step detailing process, which is what the DAMF System was designed for, the logical choice is D301/DMF5. But, as we know, quite often a higher level of finish is being chased, in which case M205 on a finishing pad (or any other combo of finishing polish/pad you happen to like) would make more sense.

As for the dust issue, yeah, there's "dust" and then there's "DUST"!! But M105 is almost always going to create more dust than D300, and if you happen to overuse M105 on a DA it can dust quite a bit. Dust is one of those things that some people just detest, while others look at as just being part of the process. You seem to fall into the latter group!

But you do bring up an important point: if you're working in a body shop environment, that changes things pretty radically here. D300 is not a body shop safe product so you might want to reconsider using it if you're doing so in a body shop. It really is designed for cured paint anyway, not fresh paint that has just been cut. In that case, you're better off staying with M105 or, if you really don't like dust at all, maybe give M86 a go.

And now the can of worms is wide open, isn't it???? Im the MAN
 
Dust doesn't bother me as long as I'm getting the results I'm looking for. I actually kinda like the process of washing between polishing steps. Especially when I'm being paid on an hourly basis

:D

I'm so dialed in using Meguiars 105 I can't imagine using anything else
 
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