What is the best ceramic/nano glass coating for a first timer?

[ArnoldLayne]

They literally make it when someone orders like chipotle burrito bowl.

According to PA, it has 4 years of shelf life and 2 years when opened.

I assume that is just educated guess, but yeah, PA says expect 2-3 days delay before shipment goes out due to it has to be made fresh when they receive an order from germany.

Hmm that would be interesting that they make it as someone orders it. I wonder how they manage that.

So I take it you order the burrito bowl instead of the burrito because you are afraid of carbs from the tortilla

 

[ronkh57]

Since you ordered 4 boxes I have to ask..what is the difference between the Viking and Cosmic coating? Which one should one pick?

I am trying to figure out the difference between the two.

Honestly don't know. I have both. I think the cosmic is "harder.

 

[choijw2]

So I take it you order the burrito bowl instead of the burrito because you are afraid of carbs from the tortilla

Hahaha what if I get burrito bowl with tortilla on the side?

Nah but I have celiac and shouldn't eat anything with gluten

 

[ArnoldLayne]

Honestly don't know. I have both. I think the cosmic is "harder.

Harder? How do you determine that? Or is there available data for the hardness of the coating?

So what would make one pick Cosmic over Viking or vice versa? I haven't seen any tangible difference in terms of the specifications so wondering how one would go about making that decision.

 

[LaFawnduh]

Harder? How do you determine that? Or is there available data for the hardness of the coating?

So what would make one pick Cosmic over Viking or vice versa? I haven't seen any tangible difference in terms of the specifications so wondering how one would go about making that decision.

They actually quote a hardness level for cosmic, not Viking. Could be different but seems like Viking is more targeted at colder climates whereas I am in SoCal. Viking seems to have more silica/titanium which probably will shine more but cosmic is also a bit cheaper.

 

[ronkh57]

Harder? How do you determine that? Or is there available data for the hardness of the coating?

So what would make one pick Cosmic over Viking or vice versa? I haven't seen any tangible difference in terms of the specifications so wondering how one would go about making that decision.

Faith?

 

[custmsprty]

I am leaning towards the PA coating myself after seeing the ease of application and the finished work on spray's Nissan Rogue.

I probably would be doing this in late Sept/early Oct when the outside weather is humane (its 113 outside now and you could bake a pizza in it)

So here are my questions for customsprty regarding PA coating.(or anyone else for that matter who has done this already)

Viking or Cosmic?

1 coat or 2 coats(like PA recommends)?

I am assuming I have to buy the spritz that goes along with it.

Does the PA Viking/Cosmic come with the necessary applicators or suede mf cloths for application or do I have to buy them separately? If so what kind of applicator?

Anything else I need to complete this job?

Your answers and previous knowledge is much appreciated.

You don't need all that extra stuff.

I did my GC in the garage in June in Fla. with the high heat and humidity and it applied like a dream, we're talikng 100+ degrees and 90% humidity, it can't get any worse any where else LOL and no issues. That was with Cosmic 2 step. I did my Rogue outside in December when the sun is low in the sky and it was not on my vehicle so all was good. I machine applied all step with my Rupes da's.

 

[ArnoldLayne]

You don't need all that extra stuff.

I did my GC in the garage in June in Fla. with the high heat and humidity and it applied like a dream, we're talikng 100+ degrees and 90% humidity, it can't get any worse any where else LOL and no issues. That was with Cosmic 2 step. I did my Rogue outside in December when the sun is low in the sky and it was not on my vehicle so all was good. I machine applied all step with my Rupes da's.

Thanks. So how do you maintain or refresh your coating? Also is that coating safe for a rinse less wash like ONR W&S or ONR W&W?

You sure about the highlighted part? I'll give you the humidity part but it is pushing 113-115 past few days here and humidity which is normally 10-15% is now at 40-45% because of monsoon season.

Don't have a garage and just covered parking space so I won't even attempt it atlas after Labor day and mostly early Oct when its nice outside.

You do a quick detail outside for 20-30 min at 7 pm and you want to take a 2 hr nap afterwards. Its that ridiculously hot.

So Cosmic is the one to use then over Viking? What is a 2 step thing?

 

[Blackalak]

So back to the original posting are we able to make a poll out of this??

 

[ArnoldLayne]

So back to the original posting are we able to make a poll out of this??

Not sure if it will be a poll. And even if it is a poll, it will be a poll of 'Best ceramic/nano glass coating for a first timer sold by PBMG' would be the most appropriate title for the poll.

Couple of people have product suggestions they cannot discuss here for that reason.

I found at least one other product that fits the description but alas...can't discuss or mention its name.

At least to me, the poll would be a spurious one because everything available in the market to the consumer will not be in the poll.

I found two products so far that fits the bill and perfect for first timer for ease of application. One is being carried by AG's sister site and the other one is outside the purview of discussion because of aforementioned reasons.

Just my two cents on the poll idea.

 

[Redline8k]

Ok Im new to this whole coating thing. I have a 2014 Deep impact blue mustang the paint is well taken care of and its garage kept. I bought the Wolfgang polish kit that has the clay,polish enhancer sealant 3.0 and detail spritz. so far Ive just used the wash and the polish enhancer and they have worked out nicely. I'm looking for a coating that will help prevent light scratches from dust and normal driving. I don't have a DA so right now I'm doing everything by hand. I'm researching the WG ceramic coating but after reading this thread I'm even more confused. is this AP cosmic the same as the WG ceramic or is it just a coating like the WG paint sealant 3.0. Please help point me in the right direction.

 

[LaFawnduh]

Ok Im new to this whole coating thing. I have a 2014 Deep impact blue mustang the paint is well taken care of and its garage kept. I bought the Wolfgang polish kit that has the clay,polish enhancer sealant 3.0 and detail spritz. so far Ive just used the wash and the polish enhancer and they have worked out nicely. I'm looking for a coating that will help prevent light scratches from dust and normal driving. I don't have a DA so right now I'm doing everything by hand. I'm researching the WG ceramic coating but after reading this thread I'm even more confused. is this AP cosmic the same as the WG ceramic or is it just a coating like the WG paint sealant 3.0. Please help point me in the right direction.

Wolfgang ceramic and PA Cosmic are both nano ceramic coatings - harder and more durable than the paint sealants. They literally have silica contained in them - as in glass - so it forms a barrier reducing scratches and swirls. But they do require more prep and work than a sealant.

Although many assert the PA product is as easy to worth with as a sealant - I'll find out next week.

 

[Health Guide]

I have used Polish Angel Cosmic with 2 coats on my Honda Civic and the sheeting diminished after 12 months but the Cosmic Spritz came out and then I was back in full sheeting mode. I have tried Wolfgang paint sealant 3.0 and it only last 4 -5 months. The Cosmic was simple to use with my Meguiars' DA. I originally ordered directly from from PA USA with Travis and it was shipped directly from Germany by DHL.No flashover and great shine and durability. I have used many of the PA products and I love everything they make. The stuff is handmade in Germany and it does what it says it does. No IPA wipedown when you use the Invincible primer .

I just wash my car 2-3x months then use the DP hand blower to dry my car. I always prep my car with TRIX wipedown then 2 bucket wash , use the Nano Autoscrub DA pad with Glide for the claying step and the on to the Invincible primer and 2 coats of Cosmic with a coat of the Cosmic spritz in between to shorten the cure time to 12 hours for water exposure.Best coating with the least hassles on the market that I have used. The car is garaged at night but sits out during the day.

I believe you can't go wrong with Cosmic Polish Angel

 

[LaFawnduh]

So I did my coating today with Polish Angel Cosmic. As a mini show-and-shine,
Washed with CG Citrus Wash and clear, at max clean concentration, iron-x and nanoskin fine wash mitt with a mix of soap and BF Rinseless diluted to a clay lube. Also, used the PA Mint wheel cleaner - it's an amazing product!

Since I had just done a full correction in May and just used the PA invincible primer on my Megs polished and GG 3in DA, with a gloss pad. Primer is really easy to use. Wipes clean and cleans out of pads with ease.

Then onto the PA Cosmic. Did two coats, 2 hours apart, followed by PA Cosmic spritz 2 hours later to cleanup and cut cure time. First coat put on too thick and similar to a strong wax, it was a PITA to take off. Lesson learned on 2nd coat and was much easier. Not Souveran easy but still relatively easy.

Finished off the jambs, plastics and trim with BFCS, wheels coated with PBL wheel coating, tired with BF tire gel. Finished after sundown so excited to see the results in the light but, even under crappy fluorescent lighting, the results are promising!View attachment 50905

 

[LaFawnduh]

So I did my coating today with Polish Angel Cosmic. As a mini show-and-shine,
Washed with CG Citrus Wash and clear, at max clean concentration, iron-x and nanoskin fine wash mitt with a mix of soap and BF Rinseless diluted to a clay lube. Also, used the PA Mint wheel cleaner - it's an amazing product!

Since I had just done a full correction in May and just used the PA invincible primer on my Megs polished and GG 3in DA, with a gloss pad. Primer is really easy to use. Wipes clean and cleans out of pads with ease.

Then onto the PA Cosmic. Did two coats, 2 hours apart, followed by PA Cosmic spritz 2 hours later to cleanup and cut cure time. First coat put on too thick and similar to a strong wax, it was a PITA to take off. Lesson learned on 2nd coat and was much easier. Not Souveran easy but still relatively easy.

Finished off the jambs, plastics and trim with BFCS, wheels coated with PBL wheel coating, tired with BF tire gel. Finished after sundown so excited to see the results in the light but, even under crappy fluorescent lighting, the results are promising!View attachment 50905

Morning looks nice... Overall I wouldn't say I got any more "shine" that I usually got out of my previous regimen (BF Gloss Enhancing Polish + Crystal Seal + BF BlackICE) but the slickness is wicked and hope the durability lives up to the claims View attachment 50925View attachment 50926
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[klix58]

Good looking job, I used Viking coat and love it;

 

[suke]

I used optimum gloss coat and it was great and easy to apply.

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[custmsprty]

Thanks. So how do you maintain or refresh your coating? Also is that coating safe for a rinse less wash like ONR W&S or ONR W&W?

You sure about the highlighted part? I'll give you the humidity part but it is pushing 113-115 past few days here and humidity which is normally 10-15% is now at 40-45% because of monsoon season.

Don't have a garage and just covered parking space so I won't even attempt it atlas after Labor day and mostly early Oct when its nice outside.

You do a quick detail outside for 20-30 min at 7 pm and you want to take a 2 hr nap afterwards. Its that ridiculously hot.

So Cosmic is the one to use then over Viking? What is a 2 step thing?

You're like the nagging wife that haunts a man to the end of his life. The answer of where I've been or what I did is never enough, you're just going to nag me into submission. You remind me of Abner Kravitz from Bewitched. And in closing I'll say this having just celebrated my 25th wedding anniversary. Thank god for me and my wife you are neither of us for we would have never survived 25 years together, Good night!

 

[benzw205]

hello, without reading all, is there any reply to the OP question ? What is the best ceramic/nano glass coating for a first timer?

For me, this is all bullshiite marketing and most of the brands sell the same things, but I must agree that I know nothing

If you don't know what is the best, can we just say that any coating done the proper way by a pro is better than no coating at all (I want a coating because I never wax my car and do not want to spend my time doing it or bringing the car often to a car center).

Thank you for your help.

 

[BudgetPlan1]

hello, without reading all, is there any reply to the OP question ? What is the best ceramic/nano glass coating for a first timer?.

It's all so subjective...first time, for a variety of reasons probably McKees Paint Coating...inexpensive, easy and forgiving.