What is the BEST Finishing/Jeweling polish to use AFTER Meguiars 205 with a Flex or PC for that extra gloss?

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I used Meguiars 105 and then finished with Meguiars 205 on a Black LC pad and want to top that with a jeweling polish top get that little extra gloss on black paint. The finish does look great after using 205 with a black pad, however I want to know if I can make it look even better. I am using a Flex 3401 and want to know what is the best jeweling polish for SOFT jet black paint? Some jeweling polishes are best used with a rotary (po85rd or ultrafina) and I want to know what people use with a Flex 3401 or PC?

I tried PO85rd on a blue 5.5" LC pad and cannot notice any improvement in the finish over the 205 with a black pad with the Flex 3401 at speed 6, I can almost say that it looks like the 85rd actually dulled the finish just a bit. I used the 85rd with a blue pad and I do not think the Flex was able to break the polish down. Since Menzerna was really made to be used with a rotary I want to know what jeweling polish gives the best results on soft paint with a Flex 3401 or PC?
 
There many, many people who use PO85RD with a DA, including me, with excellent results.
 
For a show car finish, jewling with a rotary is a must. Ive jewled with a DA and a rotary and the finish with the rotary was far more outstanding. With the da it looks nice, but not like the rotary.
 
I go with mostly 205 with green then PO85RD blue...6 PC....

Tough spots...4 orange...105...4 white 205....then above...

Awesome results on black....
 
Anyone else? Maybe I need to try PO85rd again and try to use more polish on the pad next time.

Does anyone know how PO85rd compares to Ultrafina for a Jeweling step on soft paint with a FLex 3401?

Feed back please
 
superior_shine said:
What the heck is "jeweling"???
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Its a term used for the last polishing step (but not required) after using a finishing polish where the surface is already swirl free and perfect. It just means that you are trying to get a little extra gloss on the surface by using a very fine polish - before you apply a glaze, sealant, and/or wax.
 
I need to get some PO85RD, always hear how good it is. I dont really want 32 oz, do they make a smaller bottle?
 
I thought you could get them in a 16oz bottle, but if you haven't seen it, I must be wrong.
 
Im sure its only in 32oz bottles. I am in love with it! :)
 
93fox said:
Im sure its only in 32oz bottles. I am in love with it! :)
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I'm sure, you have a rotary and it was made to be used with a rotary.

You did say that you used it with a DA though - have you used anything better for a final polish with the DA?

Do you think PO85rd with a DA will give a slightly better finish than 205 on a grey LC pad with a DA?
 
Anyone else?
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So I gather you quickly overcame your problem with M105/orange. What did you end up going with? Did the Cyan pad do it for you? Were you able to remove all the defects?

Personally I think the step from M105/M205 is not the best for BMW paint, too big a jump. Sure it will work, it was a standard step for me at one time, but I reckon you will get better results with an intermediate step of P0203S/Orange or White as I said in the other post. You can then follow that up with P0106FF or P085RD. These days I tend to favor P0106FF which has exactly the same gloss rating as P085RD but has a little more cut. For P0106FF I’d use either White or Green (polishing) or if you go with P085RD I’d go with Green or Black. If Black does show an improvement then try Blue.

Sometimes it can be pretty hard to pick the difference just with a test spot. You may want to complete the whole vehicle or at least half of it, and then wheel it out in the sun to really see the effect of a very fine polish like P085RD.

Obviously I’ve got no idea about using them on a Flex, but I’ve used those combinations on an ordinary DA and the result is pretty good. I would reckon the Flex should at least do the same. Like others have said to finish or jewel paint, I go with rotary every time.

You don’t need a lot of P085RD. Start with 4 pea size drops, but you can drop that back to half the size once the pad is primed for subsequent sections. It does take a long time to break down on a DA (much quicker on a rotary). I’m guessing here about the Flex, but I’d start at 6 with pressure and then lighten up and reduce speed to say 4 or 3. Once the film has gone translucent it is fully broken down. Don’t forget to use a pad brush each time before you add more product. You can’t expect a really top finish unless you work absolutely clean.

I’ve never tried UltraFina, but believe it is meant to be very similar to P085RD. Maybe others can comment who have used both.
 
PO85RD, 3M Ultrafine, Wolfgang Finishing Glaze, Optimum Finish....4 polishes off the top of my head that in my experiences, definitely add something to the finish following M205.
 
JetBlackBMW said:
I'm sure, you have a rotary and it was made to be used with a rotary.

You did say that you used it with a DA though - have you used anything better for a final polish with the DA?

Do you think PO85rd with a DA will give a slightly better finish than 205 on a grey LC pad with a DA?
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Oh yea! Im sure even with a blue pad on the DA it will look better than 205 on a black pad. 205 on a black pad dosent look overall that different than 205 on a white pad imo...
 
I haven't used 205, but I love Optimum PoliSeal as a finish polish for that extra pop. It also makes the paint finish super slick.
 
[email protected] said:
PO85RD, 3M Ultrafine, Wolfgang Finishing Glaze, Optimum Finish....4 polishes off the top of my head that in my experiences, definitely add something to the finish following M205.
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I would like to see some reviews and results of Optimum especially with a DA.
 
Bunky said:
I would like to see some reviews and results of Optimum especially with a DA.
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+1

Can anyone compare Optimum Finishing Polish to Ultrafina and/or 85RD on a black car with a FLEX 3401 or PC????
 
StoneRaizer said:
I haven't used 205, but I love Optimum PoliSeal as a finish polish for that extra pop. It also makes the paint finish super slick.
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Can you top PoliSeal with a glaze and then a wax? Would they bond? I have both a glaze and carbuba wax that I want to use after the final finishing polish.
 
Can you top PoliSeal with a glaze and then a wax?
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You would normally top Poli-Seal with Opti-Seal and then top that and maintain the vehicle with Optimum Car Wax (OCW).

I wouldn't be putting a glaze over Poli-Seal - no point, if your previous correction is done correctly.
 
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