What is the deal with cleaning tires?

I like Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew for tire brown. APC's can get the tire clean but they are less effective at tire brown.
 
quebert said:
The $5 Tuff Shine brush is probably the best investment I've made for detailing accessories. While I'm sure the DA brush attachments are superior, I don't yet have a DA. Prior to the TS brush cleaning my tires was much more of a chore.
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Get a HF DA,, they are great no matter what the naysayers post. 50 bucks or less and do the mods that are listed here. you wont be unhappy especially if you have never used a DA.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
You'll note both of those water-based dressings contain PDMS (polydimethylsiloxane) which is a silicone oil. The reason that Optimum apparently decided not to list the "methicones" as a hazardous ingredient in Tire Shine/Opti-Bond (they share an MSDS) is that PDMS is also known as dimethicone, a common ingredient in foods and cosmetics.
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In reality these simple silicone polymers/oils are not hazardous at all, and thus need not be listed. It is the more complex silicone chemistries which tend to be hazardous and should be listed. Of course you should also be aware that they won't need listing if there in low levels. But you are spot on, many (maybe even most) of those emulsion type products will have silicones in there. There is all manner of talk of acrylic and such likes on forums like this but silicones are the elephant in the room! The marketeers have done a very good job of keeping this from the general user perception!

On the topic at hand, and excuse the language, tyres are a bleeding pain in the butt! Trying to get them totally clean is a nightmare at times, it really is a case of scrubbing, scrubbing and more scrubbing. Be careful with solvents, they will often do more damage than good. They can appear to do a good job but, if you leave them long enough for the solvent to all evaporate away, the results can be horrid. You can see this if using a dedicated solvent cleaner, with the necessary surfactants to allow rinsing. Another thing to think about is just why you need to get the wheels THAT clean? If you are putting on something like tuffcoat, then I understand. However, a silicone dressing like car pro perl or megs enduarance just don't need to be that clean...
 
I have a HF unit dedicated to tires with a cyclo brush for tires. Great investment.

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Well while we're on it (and not trying to stir the pot or poke Allen): why spend $50+ on a lousy DA from a prolific vendor of Chinese goods, plus another $15 for the Cyclo brush (that is meant for other purposes), when you can go to any B&M home center or big box store and get a Scrubbing Bubbles battery-operated scrubber for $17?
 
SameGuy said:
Well while we're on it (and not trying to stir the pot or poke Allen): why spend $50+ on a lousy DA from a prolific vendor of Chinese goods, plus another $15 for the Cyclo brush (that is meant for other purposes), when you can go to any B&M home center or big box store and get a Scrubbing Bubbles battery-operated scrubber for $17?
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I actually use a PC 7424 (the older one)

I highly doubt the battery powered unit will keep up with a DA

What specifically, does Cyclo suggest each if the variations if their brushes is intended for?

I have actually heard good things about the HF DA. Have you used one?
 
Have one, yeah. One more time, not knocking your suggestion, just think it's overkill for my needs, as shown and explained several times above.
 
I believe Gary Dean supports the hf m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y040rbJO5UI.

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No doubt, but how much scrubbing do you honestly think a sidewall needs? Yes, a DA will polish circles around a battery-powered shower scrubber. But on a tire, does it need to? I spend less than 30 seconds per tire scrubbing with a nylon brush; once dried and dressed, you'd be hard pressed to tell I didn't spray and scrub five times or use a DA before I dressed them.
 
SameGuy said:
Have one, yeah. One more time, not knocking your suggestion, just think it's overkill for my needs, as shown and explained several times above.
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We all have different needs...

If you Need really clean tires and you Need them in a hurry...do as Mike Phillips does; PC with Cyclo brush

If you can't change The BP on a PC in 30 seconds...Private Pyle needs additional instruction
 
If you are only spending 30 seconds per tire, a scrub brush by hand is great.

I thought we were talking about dirty tires


I rarely do more than powerwash the tires on my personal vehicle. Never rains here and I keep it on the pavement
 
And did you look at the picture I posted, or are you just challenging my posts because that's your lot in life? The Cyclo brush is too large for about 80% of the tires I see.


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Setec Astronomy said:
Yeah, in my brake system.
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So let's inject a bit of humor..... or one of my stories if I may. ;)

Got a funny story about brake fluid and tires.

Back in the 70's one of the coolest things to use for doing burnouts was....
you guessed it...... BRAKE FLUID!

Talk about BIG OL' SMOKIN' BURNOUTS!!!!!!!:hotrod2:
(Even from cars that didn't have any horsepower!) :D

Then there was a "trick" where you could fill your windshield washer reservoir with brake fluid, run a length of fish tank tubing to one (or both) of your rear wheels, take a bit of coat hanger and neatly (ummmm) affix said tubing here and there and sure enough..... you were driving a Top Fuel Funny CAR! Im the MAN

Now I didn't do it, but I knew guys that did. (I'd just dump the fluid on the ground and do it that way.)

So...... I had this 77 Celica liftback and it was oh I dunno'.... somewhere in the mid 80's and I sold the car to my little brother. There was NOTHING wrong with it, averaged about 6000 miles a year I think about 80K on it when I sold it to him.

Well he had heard the story about the brake fluid, the coat hangers, and massive burnouts. :rolleyes:

So I get a call from my Mother one day.... yadda' yadda' yadda' about just how big of a piece of junk this car was, and that I had ripped my little brother off. (Although THEY were the ones that always paid his way, well into his mid 30's actually!) So I'm trying to figure out what she's talking about and then my Dad gets on the phone, tells me that the clutch fell out of the car and my (poor little) brother had it up on jack stands and that I NEEDED TO GET MYSELF OVER THERE AND HELP HIM!:eek: Say WHAT?!?!?!?!!!!:wow:

So I get there, not to pleased that they had jumped all over me, telling me what a scumbag I was. Get on the creeper, slide myself under the car, and LOW AND BEHOLD...... you guess it..... that jacka$$ had run tubing from the washer reservoir to the back tire(s) and not only was the clutch gone, but BOTH back tires were bald. This was in LESS THAN 30 days!

Needless to say, I snatched that crap off the car, including half a dozen pieces of coat hanger. Then I went in the kitchen, threw it all on the table, told them DO NOT CALL ME, (along with the story of what he'd done) and got into my rollback and left. :nomore:

Hat in hand was the best way to describe my next interaction with my folks. (It was their hat, in their hands!) :dblthumb2:
 
IME you won't need ANY machine to clean a tire - unless your working on BigFoot or something. What you need is the right tools:

- Tuff Shine Tire Cleaner
- Tuff Shine brush

If your just using regular dressings, the tire just needs to be "clean enough". You don't need to get every drop of old dressing out of the rubber - since you will be just adding more dressing.
 
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