what is your favorite paint coating & why.

builthatch said:
whatever OPT sells. so, now, Gloss-Coat. mainly because Opti-Coat has made my life so much easier re: keeping my vehicles looking better longer whilst being easier to clean. also, because Dr. G is a paint chemist and is based in the US so it's easy to reach the dude who actually makes the coating. all the political bickering and professional detailer conspiracy theories aside, the very fact that the guy making it has massive experience making the very paint the coating goes on is a HUGE plus for me.

i don't have personal longevity info back yet on Gloss-Coat but i can 100% attest to the ridiculously easy application, insane slickness/gloss and its wild aversion to water.
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Just for your information only:
Every products is made by a "Chemist" and can test their products to the competition
products. Some engineer by reverse process to make a product very much like competitors product.

I am happy for you that you have found a great coating match for you and your vehicles!
 
Detail-Impressions said:
Just for your information only:
Every products is made by a "Chemist" and can test their products to the competition
products. Some engineer by reverse process to make a product very much like competitors product.

I am happy for you that you have found a great coating match for you and your vehicles!
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in his career, Dr. G took part in formulating paint systems for major brands in the US prior to this whole OPT thing. so, his established understanding of the substrate for which he makes his coatings is a great confidence point for me.

plus, like i said - being in the US and very accessible is the icing on the cake. it doesn't hurt that the guy is just a flat out good dude. i've met him many, many times and am impressed.
 
Roikins said:
I see that you have tried the Ceramic Pro 9H, I am trying to find it for sale to general public, but looks like there is no way I can buy it, not in Europe, not in US. They offer to come and apply for you, but they won't sell the product.
If you don't mind , can you let me know where did you get it? Or may be its some different name in US?
Thank you very much!


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Ceramic Pro 9H is a professional coating and can only be installed by approved detailers. Thats why you can not find it made for sale.
 
Evan.J said:
Ceramic Pro 9H is a professional coating and can only be installed by approved detailers. Thats why you can not find it made for sale.
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Thank you for the info!!
That's why I was going nuts, trying to find any website who sells it :)
I found one in Russia, they actually sell it, but was thinking someone in US has to sell that.
Your replay now explains it.
Thanks again !!


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Mike lambert said:
I switched to Gyeon products. I would reccomend prime, ease of use,gives a real carnuba richness but extremely durable. Been on my mother in laws subaru outside for 6 months and still beads but sheets very well.
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I was thinking of using their new coating topper booster or kamikaze infinity wax over my CQUK


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Any reason not to use these on single stage paint?
 
IGL Igreenlover has a great product line, from Poly to EcoQuartz and a pro version ( certified ) Kenzo. Easy to apply and offers excellent protection and gloss, to me 90% is all in correct prepping of the paint, ensuring the paint is in its best possible condition.
 
Wendell Jarvis said:
IGL Igreenlover has a great product line, from Poly to EcoQuartz and a pro version ( certified ) Kenzo. Easy to apply and offers excellent protection and gloss, to me 90% is all in correct prepping of the paint, ensuring the paint is in its best possible condition.
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Very true prep work is the key.
 
Evan.J said:
Lets see here is all that I have tried so far in no specific order:

Opti-coat Pro
Opti-coat 2.0
Optimum Gloss coat
CQuartz UK
Pinnacle Black Label Surface Coating
Pinnacle Black Label Paint Coating
DP Paint Coating
CAR Bulletproof
Gtechniq C2V3
Gtechniq C1
Gtechniq EXO
Gtechniq Crystal Serum
Ceramic Pro 9H
Ceramic Pro lite
Ceramic Pro sport
22ple
Americoat

Those are all that I can think of and each has its benefit for the most part. When looking into caotings you need to figure out what benefits you are looking for.

Would you like to have one that offers longer durability?

What about scratch resistance?

The way the coating feels?

What about water contact angle?

Application method? (some are very time involved)

I've installed and test a lot as you can see and while I don't have a favorite per say, as each is different than the next they all can offer different benefits.
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Regarding scratch resistance, what are the best options?
 
I still cant get the CQUK application process down. Like most, apply, wait for flash, buff off high spots. Still comes out streaky
 
Every_detail said:
I still cant get the CQUK application process down. Like most, apply, wait for flash, buff off high spots. Still comes out streaky
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I agree there is a learning process with CQUK, took me a few cars before I learned the process.
Reload does more streaking than CQUK imo.
 
PolishAngel Cosmic claims hardness of 9H which would make it one of the hardest and scratch resistant coat.

There is another product (name I cannot mention but synonymous with the Japanese suicide pilot) that claims 9H hardness and the concentration of Sio2 is the highest I've ever seen
 
ArnoldLayne said:
PolishAngel Cosmic claims hardness of 9H which would make it one of the hardest and scratch resistant coat.

There is another product (name I cannot mention but synonymous with the Japanese suicide pilot) that claims 9H hardness and the concentration of Sio2 is the highest I've ever seen
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SIO2 has a MOHs rating of 7, how do they claim a 9h?
 
vobro said:
SIO2 has a MOHs rating of 7, how do they claim a 9h?
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To form 9H hardness, use INVINCIBLE | PRIMER as a finishing or 1-step polish prior to application of COSMIC.
-Cosmic can be applied by itself but will not form 9H hardness. POLISHANGEL recommends two coats of COSMIC applied 2 hours apart.
-Unlike other liquid coating systems, POLISHANGEL® GLASSCOAT™ is a creamy constancy which applies easier than any other coating
 
i keep getting notifications of this thread because i posted in it at some point. so i figured i'll share this pic that i stumbled on in the Opti-Coat Russia group

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also, here is another bit of info i had - this is again regarding Opti-Coat Pro, so, not necessarily applicable for everyone in here, but still good info:

The similarities and differences in coatings available on the market are quite striking. 
All true coatings are ceramic based, ceramic being a term meaning inorganic. Organics such as sealants are carbon based and as such wear away over time, ceramic in itself is permanent, being as it’s inorganic.


Coatings are characterised by their silicon content (not silicone), and 2 principal variations of silicon are used. The most common is Silicon Dioxide, sometimes marketed as glass, quartz or ceramic and in all cases that’s true. SiO2 is suspended in a resin in the form of Nano particles of Silicon Dioxide, and the resins suspend this in a film over the paint. SiO2 has a melting point of 1,600 °C (2,910 °F; 1,870 K) and on the Mohs scale of hardness is a 7.

The other coating system is Silicon Carbide, SiC. Opti-Coat Pro is the only coating available that harnesses the strengths of Silicon Carbide (sometimes referred to as ceramic, industrial diamonds and carborundum). Unlike SiO2 based coatings the SiC based coating actually bonds to the paint and the SiC is formed as a chemical reaction in that process, not by having Nano particles of the ceramic floating in a resin. SiC is superior to SiO2 coatings chemically and has a melting point of 2,730 °C (4,950 °F; 3,000 K) and is a 9 on the Mohs scale of hardness.

Opti-Coat Pro is unique in many ways because of this fundamental difference in chemistry. Opti-Coat–Pro becomes one with the paint instead of suspending nano particles of a harder substance in a resin. This gives Opti-Coat Pro far superior chemical resistance, as the chemical must break down the SiC, and not break down a resin holding SiO2 nano particles. OCP is harder than other coatings, but no coating is scratch proof. To obtain maximum strength other coatings require heat curing and multiple layers, with OCP that’s not required. SiO2 coatings obtain their maximum gloss immediately, and that gloss drops off over time, Opti-Coat Pro obtains it’s maximum gloss once the polymerization process is completed (roughly 7 days). Opti-Coat Pro will maintain its gloss over time, SiO2 coatings start losing their gloss through oxidation and it continues to drop, requiring the need to add periodically some form of resin to maintain or restore the gloss and protection.
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