What Pad to Use on New Black Challenger

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Hi all. I recently purchased a 2016 Challenger (Pitch Black). I know, I know, I should have bought white. You'd think I would have learned my lesson coming from a black Grand Cherokee SRT. Anyhow, it has some minor swirls due to the dealer having put it through their wash. I have always done my own detailing (by hand) but last week I ordered a Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital (HD version) with a 5" backing plate and Lake Country CCS 5-1/2" pads.

For the last fourteen or fifteen years I've been using Klasse AIO and Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze - but now with this new orbital am wanting to try something new. Actually I'm tired of doing it by hand and busting my a$$ with the Klasse. So I just ordered a bottle of 3D HD Speed. I am a little intimidated about learning to use an orbital on a brand new black car - maybe I should try on my son's car first (lol). Anyhow, do you think the orange pad would be too aggressive or should I go with the white pad?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
 
Tico said:
Hi all. I recently purchased a 2016 Challenger (Pitch Black). I know, I know, I should have bought white. You'd think I would have learned my lesson coming from a black Grand Cherokee SRT. Anyhow, it has some minor swirls due to the dealer having put it through their wash. I have always done my own detailing (by hand) but last week I ordered a Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital (HD version) with a 5" backing plate and Lake Country CCS 5-1/2" pads.

For the last fourteen or fifteen years I've been using Klasse AIO and Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze - but now with this new orbital am wanting to try something new. Actually I'm tired of doing it by hand and busting my a$$ with the Klasse. So I just ordered a bottle of 3D HD Speed. I am a little intimidated about learning to use an orbital on a brand new black car - maybe I should try on my son's car first (lol). Anyhow, do you think the orange pad would be too aggressive or should I go with the white pad?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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Orange is perfect and what I pretty much use exclusively with Speed. You get excellent correction and excellent finish. Do the entire vehicle and then wipe the Speed off. I do about 5-6 section passes at a nice medium to slow speed arm speed 2 x 2 , maybe 3 x 3 area at a time. I generally run at 5-6 on the da and lighten up on my last pass to get a better finish. I always prefer to top with Poxy as it adds depth and durability and when machine applied it adds very little additional time yet the benefits are well worth it.
 
I'll find out what this guy used, so you know what NOT to use...........

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custmsprty said:
Orange is perfect and what I pretty much use exclusively with Speed. You get excellent correction and excellent finish. Do the entire vehicle and then wipe the Speed off. I do about 5-6 section passes at a nice medium to slow speed arm speed 2 x 2 , maybe 3 x 3 area at a time. I generally run at 5-6 on the da and lighten up on my last pass to get a better finish. I always prefer to top with Poxy as it adds depth and durability and when machine applied it adds very little additional time yet the benefits are well worth it.
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So don't wipe down after each panel - complete the whole car before wiping down. Won't it be tougher to remove the longer I wait?



ronkh57 said:
I'll find out what this guy used, so you know what NOT to use...........

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OMG that's my exact car except that mine looks incredible compared to that one - plus the driver in mine looks better too (lol).
 
It was much worse in person. Both sides. You could see a circle where he stopped the buffer......
 
Tico said:
So don't wipe down after each panel - complete the whole car before wiping down. Won't it be tougher to remove the longer I wait?


That's the beauty of Speed and their Polishes too. Ease of removal. You want to leave the Speed on to set up so that it leaves the protection of the Poxy blend after you wipe it off.
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To be honest seeing that picture has got me more concerned about learning to use an orbital on a black car. I am hoping that guy was just a moron or had a VERY bad detailer. Where did you take that picture? You should have handed him your detailer card.
 
Tico said:
To be honest seeing that picture has got me more concerned about learning to use an orbital on a black car. I am hoping that guy was just a moron or had a VERY bad detailer. Where did you take that picture? You should have handed him your detailer card.
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Definitely a moron and that's not from a DA. On you're worst day you couldn't do that with a DA Polisher.
 
You can't induce marring like that with a da even if you tried to.That carnage looks like a scotchbrite wash.
 
Those are the type of guys that attend car shows ,and you give them a business card and look at you like ,what are you talkin about I just waxed it.Not all but a big majority of them.
 
Tico said:
To be honest seeing that picture has got me more concerned about learning to use an orbital on a black car. I am hoping that guy was just a moron or had a VERY bad detailer. Where did you take that picture? You should have handed him your detailer card.
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Only a rotary can inflict carnage of that magnitude ... even if you were using the old, old time "Rocks-in-a-bottle" type compound, you couldn't do that with an orbital.
 
Tico--don't forget with HD Speed (and all their polishes) less is more. Use 5-6 pea sized drops of Speed for your first section then add 3-4 pea sized drops for each additional section. Don't use any pad conditioners or detail spray etc.
 
Tico said:
Hi all. I recently purchased a 2016 Challenger (Pitch Black). I know, I know, I should have bought white. You'd think I would have learned my lesson coming from a black Grand Cherokee SRT. Anyhow, it has some minor swirls due to the dealer having put it through their wash. I have always done my own detailing (by hand) but last week I ordered a Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital (HD version) with a 5" backing plate and Lake Country CCS 5-1/2" pads.

For the last fourteen or fifteen years I've been using Klasse AIO and Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze - but now with this new orbital am wanting to try something new. Actually I'm tired of doing it by hand and busting my a$$ with the Klasse. So I just ordered a bottle of 3D HD Speed. I am a little intimidated about learning to use an orbital on a brand new black car - maybe I should try on my son's car first (lol). Anyhow, do you think the orange pad would be too aggressive or should I go with the white pad?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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I have a 2016 black f150 in need of a good polish. It's tough and it stinks, but man it looks good when it's right!

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Tico said:
Hi all. I recently purchased a 2016 Challenger (Pitch Black). I know, I know, I should have bought white. You'd think I would have learned my lesson coming from a black Grand Cherokee SRT. Anyhow, it has some minor swirls due to the dealer having put it through their wash. I have always done my own detailing (by hand) but last week I ordered a Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital (HD version) with a 5" backing plate and Lake Country CCS 5-1/2" pads.

For the last fourteen or fifteen years I've been using Klasse AIO and Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze - but now with this new orbital am wanting to try something new. Actually I'm tired of doing it by hand and busting my a$$ with the Klasse. So I just ordered a bottle of 3D HD Speed. I am a little intimidated about learning to use an orbital on a brand new black car - maybe I should try on my son's car first (lol). Anyhow, do you think the orange pad would be too aggressive or should I go with the white pad?

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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You'll be fine with a DA and HDSpeed. I'd use a green pad and if for any reason you need to move to an orange pad it's there. However it's greats stuff and I don't think you'll need to.

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HD speed,orange pad, topped with HD express is a nice combo I've used it on a lot of black cars lately
 
Gentlemen, thanks for all of the great advice. Truly appreciate the wealth of information and good people on this forum.
 
GSKR said:
You can't induce marring like that with a da even if you tried to.That carnage looks like a scotchbrite wash.
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Yeah you can. I've personally seen it done with a PC and a yellow pad. The paint has to be pretty soft and it was always on black. But it's definitely possible. Fortunately, it's fairly easy to fix but you're taking off a lot of clear coat.
 
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